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Local Coverage - Vulcan AB celebrated Spock Days in June ( chatnewstoday.ca )

A bit late, but for those who aren’t aware, the small town of Vulcan, Alberta, has long embraced its connection to the franchise. A gigantic model, Trek themed uniforms for the town council, fairs and parades - nothing seems to be too much for this cheerful town of unabashed fans....

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Like most Star Trek shows, it took a bit find its own strengths and to settle into its own groove. At 22 minutes an episode, getting through the ground establishing first half season isn’t a big time investment, and by the end of the first season, you’ll know if it’s for you - although it keeps getting stronger and more grounded in its own lore as it goes.

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As the extended Newfoundland family on my in-laws side would have it, there are cousins in every corner of North America.

It’s great to see people owning the ties.

BTW there’s another connection to Pike’s 1701 - Lt. Amin the Enterprise navigator in Discovery season two was played by Samora Smallwood, grand niece of Joey Smallwood, the premier who brought Newfoundland into Confederation as a Canadian province.

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This is one of the rare times that I wish we had Star Trek on Paramount+ in Canada.

I guess we’ll just have to wait until Thursday.

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We’ve got CTV Sci-fi channel which means our other Trek content won’t be vanishing in August.

Who knows, perhaps CTV will add it ‘On Demand’ early.

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Brilliant thank you! It’s showing in the schedule for 22:30 EDT.

Now if I can figure out how to get Bell Fibe to schedule a recording of a ‘Special Presentation’. (Or just brute force it.)

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Yup. It’s a help.

But everything new other than SNW is going away at the end of this month. It looks like Bell Media’s streaming licence is winding up and all the new stuff will be on Paramount+ in Canada rather than Crave.

@ValueSubstracted has confirmed with Bell Media that CTV Sci-fi Channel will continue to have everything - including Prodigy!

So, we’re sticking with linear for this.

And Bell Media knows it’s audience and is delivering a ‘Special Presentation’ to CTV Sci-fi Channel tonight so we’re golden.

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Well, as it happens Crave customers in Canada have only until July 31st.

After that, it will only be available on the CTV Sci-fi channel - at least until its new Canadian streaming home is officially announced.

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It appears that episode 8 will drop next week given Subspace Rhapsody, episode 9, is announced for August 3rd.

Which does make for an earlier end to the season m.

Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 2x07 "Those Old Scientists"

LoglineAn accident while investigating a time portal sends Ensigns Beckett Mariner and Bradward Boimler through time from the 24th century, and Captain Pike and his crew must get them back where they belong before they can alter the timeline....

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We were able to watch and record the ‘Special Presentation’ on CTV Sci-fi channel.

It did however make us watch every single ad, with a ‘skip is not available for this episode’ message.

There are no other windows for it showing before Thursday, but I am wondering if Bell will add it to ‘On Demand’ sneakily tomorrow.

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My spouse was covering their eyes and guffawing at many of the ads. It’s been years since they’d sat through anything more than promotions for other shows. Definitely an experience.

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That will be coming in Lower Decks apparently.

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If you don’t like musicals, it’s likely best to pass on this one. Many of us do, and welcome them.

For me, the key factors are whether the main cast have the musical theatre chops to pull it off well and whether the music is written by people who know what they’re doing in that specific form.

In this case, there is an award winning Broadway musical performer and others who have significant experience in touring companies. Likewise, the songwriters are both experienced alt musicians but also have written musical episodes for DC. I expect the quality to be high.

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If the audience can roll with the Naked Time and the Naked Now, why not an ‘everyone breaks into song and dance’ episode?

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He was fine singing Gilbert and Sullivan in the Short Trek Q&A. So was Number One.

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Cronenberg!

I’m enthusiastic about seeing Kovich getting off HQ and joining the adventure.

I’m also very much hoping he’ll be staying on as a recurring character in Starfleet Academy.

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Adding to the fun with TrekCore’s screencap-laden breakdown.

I defy folks here not to howl with laughter.

This made my afternoon.

SNW ranks 3rd, as of July 14th, in Parrot Analytics’ Digital Originals top ten for the second consecutive week ( www.mediaplaynews.com )

While we just saw with the Nielsen numbers from June that SNW is continuing to perform well against other original streaming series, Parrot Analytics is demonstrating that the audience interest is being maintained through the season and the strikes. Only the Witcher and Stranger Things rank higher....

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There just doesn’t seem to be a limit to the amount of hype I’m willing to soak up in anticipation of this crossover.

Nothing close to too much as yet.

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Lower Decks is very successful in fulfilling its role in attracting and retaining a new audience for the franchise.

Animated comedies are huge with the teen and younger adult demographics. Netflix is picking up and retaining a large youth audience with its array of original animated comedies. Lower Decks was Paramount+‘s only original offering that broke into this market in 2022z

Paramount appears to know exactly what it’s doing strategically with this crossover. There’s a significant demographic for whom Lower Decks is their ‘first contact’ with Star Trek. Many are branching out to the live action series but not all, and SNW is the live-action show they’re likely to try first.

Now, why Paramount went with such a strategically daft decision to write off Prodigy rather than work on a pathway between offerings is an open question.

My best bet is that it was the need to write the show off on the Nickelodeon side that’s driving the decision to write Prodigy off. Nickelodeon was supposed to be the original home of Prodigy, not Paramount+, but Nickelodeon’s free fall in linear children’s audience made that untenable. What I don’t get is why Paramount, isn’t fighting to hold onto its market share through its streamer.

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I feel this is a ripoff of the concept done as fan art by the professional creators at Gazelle Automation.

I find the art style inferior and not really seriously trying to replicate TAS while the Gazelle Automations pieces worked to be very faithful to the original Filmation style and colours.

Why not hire the creatives in Canada?

Very disheartening.

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Glad to hear that TAS is still attracting new viewers.

I love TAS, and I hope the shorts are good.

I’m sad that they’re not going with the team that actually reconstructed the art Filmation art style for Berman-era shows.

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I’m basing on the images provided to promote the series (in the attached article).

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It’s geared to families but not children only.

It’s fantastic. Many fans will argue it’s the best of the current group of new shows.

It is intended for people with no experience of Star Trek though so it starts out feeling more like another franchise in the Pilot. By the 6th episode it’s unapologetically very Star Trek.

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Frustrated to learn that the DVD and BlueRay preorder for episodes 11-20 was pulled.

I hadn’t been aware but just checked my preorder status to find a ‘something went wrong’ message.

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See my new post with Waltke’s toots please.

He’s confirming the physical media release for September .

‘Dovercourt’ - perhaps aka Section 31 movie event - hits the ‘Rumoured’ portion DGC Ontario Hotlist ( trekcentral.net )

The Directors’ Guild of Ontario hotlist is a fairly reliable source for production guild news. Star Trek preproduction in the Greater Toronto Area usually shows up there before any official announcements of production dates....

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Ok, I’m very much looking forward the S31 movie.

However, preproduction started on the show under another pseudonym originally back before it was stood down for the pandemic.

Cautiously optimistic here.

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The latest rumours before the strike characterized the movie as a cross between MI and Guardians of the Galaxy.

If they broaden out an ensemble to include other legacy characters across the franchise with S31, intelligence and/or temporal shenanigans, it could be a lot of fun.

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It’s a direct-to-streaming movie with the winner of the Best Actress Oscar.

Calling it an ‘event’ is fair in this case.

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It was intended to reach a different slice of the potential audience, to draw new demographics to the franchise.

Many of us didn’t think that either Lower or Prodigy would be something we’d want to see and they’re favourites.

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You seem to be assuming that a direct to streaming movie was Paramount’s preference rather than a second option to go forward in the face of Michelle Yeoh’s scheduling limitations following her winning just about every major award in 2022 for her performance in Everything, Everywhere, All At Once.

The series buy was already decided but not announced due to the situation on Yeoh’s side. Kurtzman has basically salvaged the situation with a streaming movie. Hopefully, it will also get a limited IMAX air theatrical release too but there’s no word on that.

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Nice to see Bruce Horak back, but very much want more. More Hemmer, more Aenar, even more Bruce Horak as a completely different alien or character.

I like the episode a lot, and it hit so very many wonderful notes and gave us so many coup d’oeil moments….but…it’s also getting me to the point where wanting just to settle into something just focused on the entire main cast together. That won’t be next week’s crossover with Lower Decks or the musical episode. And we’re promised a ‘Moretegas’ episode too. Would be sad if the finale is the only episode that features the whole cast coalescing as a team.

We got more from Una in this one, but still not enough. They had her in an oppositional situation with Pelia, somewhat as she was with Hemmer in season one. Even though I liked the resolution, and it’s great to see this kind of friction between two female officers with very different temperaments, somehow it’s not quite hitting the mark in making us see why Una is such a great officer. I feel like other than in the focus episodes for her each season, the writers just don’t know who she is as well as Chabon did when he wrote Q&A.

I’m also having very mixed feelings about how Kirk is overshadowing main characters in the episodes in which he appears. This Kirk is growing on me, but do we really need so much Kirk so early in the multi season run of this show? Especially when it’s getting Paramount+ ratings enough to make the case for many seasons to come.

All to say, as much as I really am sold on the ensemble, with so few episodes, I’m feeling that adding in so much Kirk is taking away from the opportunities to have other ensemble characters be featured teaming up with each other. I’m still not feeling that hankering for Pike’s Enterprise, that I’ve had since I first saw the reconstruction of The Cage, is quite getting satisfied.

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We saw some of that pissy-ness in season one of Discovery, and the frictions between McCoy and others in TOS were far more extreme.

We shouldn’t expect 23rd Century crews to behave like mid 24th century crews in TNG. Human society has had another century of evolution and peace by then.

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I’m really looking forward to the Shax-focused one.

I have found the IDW comics hit-and-miss but some of them are great.

The Lower Decks sequence was marvellously well done.

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Spoiler alert: SDCC attendees this weekend will see Strange New Worlds episode 7 early

https://twitter.com/StarTrekOnPPlus/status/1681408562361438208

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Better strategic communications than a lot that we’ve seen recently from Paramount.

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Unsurprising update, but still awful messaging.

Even if you are looking forward to seeing Georgiou’s continuing journey towards redemption as I am.

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One can only imagine how bittersweet it is for the creatives in postproduction to be working to complete the show, episode by episode, when their previous work has been pulled from every platform.

Aaron Waltke sounds like a cheerful but competent leader. It’s got to be a real test of leadership to hold up teams morale and the quality while those above shop the show to alternate platforms.

Anything we can do here to let them know our support for the show isn’t flagging, seems the least we can do.

And by the way, there are indications that the dvd and blue ray preorders of Prodigy Season 1 Part are going well. Target has already sold out its preorder quota in the US by some reports.

Physical media demand is a significant factor in ensuring the Prodigy team get some residuals and shows interest. If you haven’t preordered yet, please consider doing so. There are other vendors.

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Two things are an issue -

    1. Mount’s daughter and first child was born shortly before production of season two. He limited his availability to be with his child. As a Canadian, living in a country that has parental benefits and encourages dads to use them, I can get behind that.
    1. Mount has said that he disliked the experience of being on a soundstage 24 or more hours a day an prefers location shooting when possible. Due to COVID the timing of production shifted and some of the episodes (e.g., the fourth) that were supposed to have significant outdoor location shooting moved into the AR wall stage. So, some of Mount’s other appearances may have been pulled back.
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Well, I have to give the OP credit for outrageous audacity.

Coming to the main community on the dedicated Star Trek instance to argue that users should subscribe elsewhere is inherently a criticism. It says a lot about the tolerance of the mods and admins here that it’s been left to stand.

I myself appreciate a well moderated community because I believe it enables more discussion not less.

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Some of the criticisms fall in another category of beating on SNW’s alleged canon ‘violations’.

These include assertions that Chapel ‘isn’t the same person’ as she doesn’t have the same temperament/personality as in TOS, Uhura not having met or known of T’Pring before Amok Time, etc., Spock would have been ashamed to have eaten animal products (bacon), T’Pring’s ears have the wrong shape

While I can be quite critical of incoherence in plot threads or characters within a single show, especially in a single season (say in Discovery season two or every season of Picard), to me that’s a problem in how a set of writers are telling a specific story.

I’ve come to realize that the fans who just can’t get past continuity changes they can’t resolve immediately across the entire history of the franchise just aren’t going to enjoy SNW as much as I am.

I classify these inflexibilities as:

— not being open to the possibility that the characters may grow and change,

— not being open to the possibility of characters being unreliable narrators or saying things ironically in later shows (e.g., in TOS Uhura might tweak Spock about T’Pring to press him to identify who she is, even if she personally knew exactly who she was),

— refusing to accept that minor changes in timing, visual design, technology and characters are possible due to intertemporal interference as long as the Prime continuity maintains key/essential events.

In the end, hanging out here to have conversations with folks who are a bit more flexible is a better choice for me.

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I find the implicit assumption that everything onscreen is ‘fact’ exasperating.

More episodes than not depend on guest or recurring characters providing inaccurate, incomplete or outright deceptive information. In many cases, the plot hangs on whether the hero crew can deduce or find more evidence about what’s actually going on.

To assume that everything not directly contradicted in an episode is true is boggling.

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We do have even so numerous examples of self-serving perspectives and irreconcilable reports across the episodic shows.

Take Lwaxana Troi’s belief that Picard is attracted to her, which Picard denies vehemently. Lwaxana is a formidable telepath. We are given to believe that her perception is some kind of middle age woman’s foible, and Picard is to be believed because he’s the hero. Do we ever see the factual truth confirmed? No.

So, I am more than willing to let main characters be wrong in their recollections or perceptions even if it’s not absolutely confirmed in the shows.

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