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Have you ever considered that the Prime Directive is not only not ethical, but also illogical, and perhaps morally indefensible?

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If you recall, there was all this noise around Season 1 and Season 2 of Discovery because the streaming service, they were like, ‘Oh, it’s like a turnaround on a cop show.’ I’m like, ‘No, you don’t understand. It’s eight months of visual effects turnaround, and we’re not gonna rush that.’

I most certainly do not recall that, and it says a lot about the people running CBS All Access at the time.

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Correct, latinum cannot be replicated: en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Latinum

This link doesn’t lead to a statement that latinum can’t be replicated, because that’s never actually been established on-screen. It makes sense and is almost certainly true, but it remains fanon.

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Yeah, if the article was just her being evasive about season three spoilers, I probably wouldn’t have bothered sharing it.

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I think this is an extremely lousy headline, but the content is good.

Firstly, the headline slightly misquotes what Matalas actually said (emphasis added):

“We wrote nine episodes at one point and the network was like, ‘No, we don’t really understand this, it’s a bit too sci-fi, it’s a bit too in-Star Trek.’”

I think a story being a little too “inside baseball” and reliant on stuff from decades ago is a perfectly valid note, especially when we’re talking about ideas like this:

The idea was that Guinan’s bar was presented as a normal bar in Los Angeles, but if you knew the right thing to do, you could go into the back through the telephone phone booth and that was Rick’s Café and it was a stopping point for all these different species that were actually there on Earth with a ‘Do not interfere’ thing happening.

The stuff about COVID messing with the writing and shooting schedule is understandable, and created problems that can be seen in many TV shows filmed around that time. All the same, it makes me wish they had decompressed the schedule and not rushed through things as much as they did.

The comments about there being a lot of different ideas in season two are interesting, since I think she overall series’ biggest flaw is that it crammed a lot of ideas, many of which I like quite a bit, into only 30 episodes, with few (none?) of them being fully explored.

And regarding the Jurati Borg…I don’t know, I never found that confusing in the slightest. I think their intent came through just fine.

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My cynical take is that season three was pretty shallow overall, and I’m not sure there was anything in it that would make someone say, “wait, what?”

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I’m not a fan of the season, but some more time to let things breathe would have been welcome.

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Interesting - whatever it is, it seems unrelated to the series ending.

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On Xbox One, there’s still a noticeable amount of jank, but to be honest the story is good enough that I didn’t care.

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I think this is the correct interpretation, though one of Spock’s lines makes is needlessly ambiguous:

Therefore, to ensure the Federation never finds itself facing the same danger, all officers remaining with knowledge of these events must be ordered never to speak of Discovery, its spore drive, or her crew again.

Some people have interpreted this as a complete disavowal, but given that the rest of the scene talks at length about how it’s the time travel that needs to be kept secret, the fact that they “saw Discovery explode,” SNW’s “Memento Mori” gave us a Discovery pin on Starfleet Remembrance Day, and “Strange New Worlds” (the episode) gave us a shuttlecraft named Stamets, I think it’s safe to say the intent was never for anyone to deny that the ship and crew existed.

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I’ve never played it - how would you describe the gameplay?

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Sounds pretty standard for what was originally a mobile game. Trek’s mobile efforts have never managed to grab me in the long term, though Timelines was okay.

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That’s a difficult conversation to have, “good” being in the eye of the beholder, but we did have a thread about it a couple of months ago.

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Except it isnt f2p and doesnt have any microtransactions.

That part of it is appealing, though not if the game itself isn’t worth the price of admission.

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I stumbled upon this via this toot, which says streamlined mechanics and support for all eras of Star Trek are among the things included in this edition.

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Indeed, I think the game as a whole is great, but the core rulebook is…not.

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An e-mail newsletter has now gone out with some additional information:

During its 7-year voyage, Star Trek™ Adventures has brought the intrepid explorers, alien worlds, and futuristic technology of the Star Trek universe to the tabletop, in immersive and faithful detail.

Now, the brand new second edition of the award-winning roleplaying game brings together crews from across the franchise, including Strange New Worlds and Prodigy, to explore the galaxy like never before.

Create original characters and live out their lives with a diversity of species and backgrounds from across the different polities of explored space, from Federation Starfleet officers to Klingon warriors, Romulan agents to Cardassian soldiers, and many more.

While Star Trek™ Adventures second edition’s core mechanics have been streamlined, they remain fundamentally the same as the first edition, just snappier and smoother to play. Combat, ship management, character creation, and complex task mechanics have all spent some time in drydock, and have been upgraded to the latest Starfleet protocols - refined, refreshed, and ready for your new explorations!

Voyage into the unknown as the crew from any era, any fleet, and forge your character’s stories, where weird is just part of the job, and your service, sacrifice, and compassion will be truly tested.

These are the voyages of your ship, your crew. Live it together.

Featuring:

  • An updated and streamlined version of the 2d20 System rules, designed for an authentic Star Trek experience
  • Compatible with 1E supplements and books (more on this later!)
  • Be part of a crew from any Star Trek era, including Prodigy and Strange New Worlds

The second edition core rulebook is expected to premiere at Gen Con in August 2024, with a Starter Set launching in the Fall, and much more to follow.

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RIP Kenneth Mitchell.

http://twitter.com/MrKenMitchell/status/1761625785553522803

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It’s difficult to know what to say.

He seemed like a good man, and I’m glad he was as big a part of the Trek family as he was.

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The CBC now has an obituary of its own.

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I just don’t care at this point.

And yet here you are…

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It does seem like part of the story is missing.

Edit: that said, Propstore does have a relationship with the studio.

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Return their original forehead prosthetics!

A behind-the-scenes photo of Terry Farrell in the TNG Trill makeup.

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She never did - they canned it in favour of the shots after screen/make-up testing.

Edit: Bonus, kind-of-gross context!

Initially, the DS9 writing staff simply didn’t like Michael Westmore’s alterations to make the Odan headpiece look more feminine. Apparently, after Terry Farrell had put on the Odan forehead appliance, someone looked at her and said to Westmore, “What did you do to her head, she used to be beautiful?” Instead of changing species, as they’d already come to like the idea of an “old man”, a person with centuries of experience to guide Sisko, Westmore suggested to “just give her spots like we gave Famke,” who played a Kriosian in TNG: “The Perfect Mate”. This make-up was used on all Trill afterwards.

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She dated and split up with Raffi between seasons one and two.

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We generally don’t protect spoilers after about a week. In this case, it’s been nearly a year.

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It’s Prophet Visions all the way down, so “what happened next” is arguably not relevant. But in any case, the author seems to be specifically referring to “Far Beyond the Stars”.

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Yeah, I agree that that part of the dialogue is problematic. However, “Picard” definitively stated that it was the Romulan star.

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…for what? The Romulan supernova was in the '09 film.

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