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EmptyRadar , to /kbin in So much spam

I, personally, have been blocking the users submitting the spam. This isn't a good solution, but it does clear my feed out and make it so that I forget the spam is there until I see another user I need to block.

The other thing I have been doing is submitting content to my favorite magazines - if we actively engage the mags, we can force the spam down.

ignirtoq ,

I do this, too, and I've been wishing there were a setting I could set where kbin would just auto-hide content submitted by accounts that have been blocked by at least X other accounts.

Yprum OP ,

Yeah I am blocking too but wanted to help remove the accounts by reporting if I can. I should become more active but after years of inactivity in social networks it's hard to start again.

Mars2k21 , to Fediverse in How do we feel about Flipboard federating?
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Glad Flipboard is expanding in the Fediverse, I've been following their various news accounts on Mastodon for a while now. It especially helps the fediverse feel more complete as a social media platform.

Sure, these don't really matter for Lemmy and Kbin, but they are a huge deal for microblogging platforms like mastodon or misskey.

iso ,
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I guess they’re federated with kbin too: kbin.social/u/@theverge

SamXavia , to Fediverse in How do we feel about Flipboard federating?
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It's not a bad thing, gives you the option to read them on the Fediverse and it proves that the Fediverse could possibly be the future of Social Media. It's good to see other people want to see it grow.

If people don't like it then personally block it, the only reason for blocking a whole instance, instance wide is if it has morals that conflict to much such as a Anti-LGBT instance vs a LGBT one.

FreeBooteR69 , to Fediverse in For the "Why are you so hostile to Threads federating?" people..
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Why are people so horny for federating with fb/meta? If you want to see their shit just join them.

Aatube ,
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Users ≠ Company

FarraigePlaisteach ,

But they are inseparable.

Aatube ,
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As in you're using the service, but that doesn't mean you two are one and make the same decisions.

FarraigePlaisteach ,

But you support/validate the service by interacting with your contacts.

Aatube ,
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Let's put it this way: Just because they live under an oppressive regime doesn't mean we should be mean to them and keep them isolated in their evil bubble.

FarraigePlaisteach ,

It’s not being mean to them. Calling them names or something would be mean.

And they are not oppressed. Oppressed people don’t have choices.

Aatube ,
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Say, many would agree that Han people in China are oppressed. They have a ton of middle-class citizens who are free to leave the country, they just don't want to permanently due to not thinking it'd be better.

Same applies to Threads, though maybe a stronger case for leaving.

FarraigePlaisteach ,

I’m not having a conversation that compares people signing up to their favourite social media channel with people who suffer systemic discrimination every day in their lives.

Aatube ,
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Han people are the main ethnicity of China; they aren’t the Uyghurs, if that’s what you mean

ripcord ,
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Like who are you talking about, exactly?

I've seen like 1 person and they weren't super enthusiastic, just said it was generally a good thing.

And some other people who are mostly just meh about it at most.

originalucifer , to Fediverse in For the "Why are you so hostile to Threads federating?" people..
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im going to treat it like any other email instance server. trust until they give me a reason not to, and then known contingencies can be implemented.

snooggums ,
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Ok, since we already know they can't be trusted...

originalucifer ,
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yeah thats not how protocols work, and 'we' dont really know what their implementation of this open protocol is going to look like.

but yeah, you can knee jerk yourself up all ya want. have fun. im not going to care about this issue until it becomes an issue.

you dont have people/world/fuckinganyone blocking facebooks email servers out of pure spite.

admiralteal ,

I mean, you know they aren't going to have adequate content moderation because they ALREADY don't. Lack of moderation is the #1, #2, and #3 best reasons to defederate.

Wanting to see proof before taking positive action is valid and sensible. But you can't pretend it isn't something you can already make reasonable inferences about. This is not a new unknown and pretending it is is ridiculous.

Email servers do not automatically feed content into and pull content out of your system. They only send and deliver to specific people at specific addresses. Federation is a firehose. You can close the hydrant before or after it gets hooked up to city water, but at the end of the day only people that chose to do things the sensible way will have dry socks and no water damage.

originalucifer ,
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Federation is a firehose.

this is just not true, sorry. instances only retrieve/pushed specified actions/actors. . pretending it is is ridiculous. this is now a new unknown, this is how the ap protocol works.

and your shit is already public, if they want to suck it all in there is literally nothing stopping them right now. federation or not.

SharkAttak OP ,
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Like I linked in the OP post, the problem isn't their implementation of the protocol, but what FB is, and what it has done; and it probably would not stop doing it in the Fediverse. If Hannnibal Lecter moved in the neighbourhood I wouldn't answer his dinner invite, just to see what's on the menu.

originalucifer ,
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whatever. i hate facebook, i dont use their crap. but im not going out of my way to block their AP protocol any more than i would their SMTP protocol.

when their activity in a specific context demonstrably, negatively affects my system, ill take action as i would any negative impact from any protocol on any of my services.

when i get a spammer, i block them. but again, im not going out of my way to spite some big asshole company, and potentially lose out on coordinating an offramp for those trapped in its walls.

everyone here as proven one thing: there is no technical reason to block threads. its entirely political/moral/spite and a lot of 'maybes'.

SharkAttak OP ,
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So, you care only if it affects you personally? Nice.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me

originalucifer ,
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yes this issue just black or white, there is zero nuance. blah blah blah. you sound like a teenager pulling absolutes out of your butthole

SharkAttak OP ,
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i hate facebook, i dont use their crap.
when their activity negatively affects my system, ill take action

You made it black and white. But don't mind me, dismiss what I say; just don't go crying the next time someone you know dies from covid cause they read on Threads that vaccines are bad.

CJOtheReal , to Fediverse in For the "Why are you so hostile to Threads federating?" people..

Also its Facebook. Fuck em.

shinratdr , to Fediverse in A case for preemptively defederating with Threads
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All I’ll say is that it’s not much of a “fediverse” if you just preemptively defederate from anyone trying to grow it because you’re scared of what might change. More of a “fediclub” at that point.

Really kills the “it’s like email!” metaphor when you defederaters are constantly trying to break that interoperability by stirring up FUD and blocking instances for theoretical stuff they haven’t even done yet.

It’s like email except your server admin might decide one day they don’t want you to talk to anyone who has an @gmail.com address because they don’t like Google. What fun!

kersploosh , to Photography in Patterns in Ice
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The kid in me wants to step on it! Breaking the first frozen puddles of winter is always fun. I can hear that satisfying crunch now…

ForestOrca OP ,
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KER-unch! User name checks out. :-D

The transient nature of this sort of image is one aspect that I really appreciate. Someone on foot, in a car, on a bike will run over it. Or the Sun will come to melt it. Regardless it will only be there for a short time. Ephemeral beauty has an urgency and immediacy to it.

Pantherina , to Linux in Sorry for the little promotion here. Please check out our newly launched m/LinuxHardware magazine/community on Kbin. We are also in-talks with r/LinuxHardware from Reddit, not only partnering with them but bringing their mods here as well. Thank you!
melroy , to Fediverse in Mbin: A kbin fork that promises to never review PRs before merging them
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Thanks for your feedback.

We do have code reviews in GitHub and discussions on Matrix. We updated the README that reflect our latest way of working. As stated in the comment section we are also working on it in PR: https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/pull/34. Feel free to comment on that.

TheAgeOfSuperboredom , to Fediverse in Mbin: A kbin fork that promises to never review PRs before merging them

Sounds like it’ll be a disaster

a-man-from-earth , to Fediverse in "It's the content, stupid." - Quick Notes to Supercharge K.Bin
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The problem is that Kbin sucks as well. For example, /m/science lacks actual moderators and gets flooded with spam on the regular. And even where there are active moderators, moderation actions often do not get federated.

I was hoping these issues would get fixed soon, but here we are, three months after the Reddit apocalypse, and Kbin is still not a fully functional platform. For example, I filed bug fifteen days ago, and this has still not been resolved. And bug has been open since early July.

If Kbin wants to become and stay relevant, it needs more hands on deck.

inkican OP , (edited )

No, the problem is that you're a person who posted 34 diff. items to K.Bin and two bug reports and you think that qualifies you to comment on K.Bin overall. Not for nothing - what qualifies me to speak on this topic is that I've been posting stuff every day to /m/scifi (with time out for vacations and illness). I know there are things wrong with scifi and K.Bin - but I'm putting the time in to make things better. What are you doing? You moderate /m/men and your stated goal is "This magazine is dedicated to discussions of issues that men and boys face, especially disadvantages or discrimination due to their gender, from an egalitarian perspective." People want stuff to read, not people to point at 'the problem.' K.bin is fine for what it is - if you want 'more hands on deck', go be one of those hands.

GizmoLion ,
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Jesus H Christ... congrats on being the one millionth person on kbin to say "What are YOU doing?" while talking down their literal list of what they are doing.

a-man-from-earth is right, Kbin is in a sorry state right now. I still get asked to login when I want to comment, despite being logged in, at which point it takes me to the home page. Viewing a reply to your comment is still not pagination-aware.

Ernest has said this version of kbin is frozen until he rolls out the next, hopefully the end of September, so by his own admission Kbin as we know and use it is the same pile it was months ago. That said I remain hopeful that the next rollout will be a big improvement.

Back to the topic, if the site isn't easy and intuitive to use, or if it's broken and remains a thorn for a long time, then you can't expect people to go out of their way to do the thing you want them to do. That's not how the world works.

a-man-from-earth has submitted bug fixes to try and improve the site so people might be more willing to stick around and post themselves, while you're just posting content that'll eventually become irrelevant. What are YOU doing? (See? It's asinine right?)

a-man-from-earth ,
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So, I post content (on average once every 3 days, despite my drop in activity this month), I engage in the comments (more than you do, if we're counting), I moderate a community, and I file bug reports in an attempt to make this a better platform.

So yes, I am doing my part, and that does qualify me to comment on the state of Kbin. Suggesting I don't is toxicity we don't need here.

And pretending that Kbin is just fine won't help this platform to become successful. And yes, despite my criticisms, I want this to be a successful Reddit replacement. But it's struggling to become relevant, and I'm frustrated with its lack of progress.

People want stuff to read, not people to point at 'the problem.'

People also want interesting discussions on topics they care about. I know that because for years I was a moderator of a small but active subreddit.

The m/men magazine I moderate used to be the most active one on Kbin, a place you're now proudly proclaiming m/scifi has...

I'm waiting to see if ernest's promised next version of Kbin will actually improve things, especially on the moderation side. Otherwise I have to reconsider where to direct my efforts.

daredevil , (edited )
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I understand wanting to help the platform grow, but I don't think invalidating the opinions and contributions of a-man-from-earth is a good way to approach it. The holier-than-thou attitude might also have the opposite effect that your original post is attempting to achieve. The lack of active moderators is certainly an issue, along with spam and the existence of various federation issues are problems as well. I get that these things take time, so I'm being patient. That said, I still enjoy kbin and contribute how and when I can.

LanternEverywhere , to Linux in I realized why I enjoy Linux so much and why I've stuck with it all these years (slight vent)...

What?! I'm sorry but no that has not been my experience, and it's also contrary to the commonly accepted reputation of Linux. I like Linux, it definitely has lots of advantages and benefits, but that definitely doesn't include it 'just working' and "not causing frustration and irritation."

d3Xt3r ,

That really depends on your needs, and the Linux distro you’re using. Generally speaking, the greater your requirements (and therefore usage), the more finicky an OS gets.

I switched my non-techy Mum and Dad over to Linux over a decade ago (Xubuntu previously, now Zorin) and in all this time, I can count on one hand the number of times they called about an issue. The entire motivation to switch them over was because Windows was so unstable and would either tend to break after an update, or get infected by malware or something, and I got tired of being the IT guy for them and having to constantly fix it. I reasoned that Linux would be a good candidate for them because they have very simple requirements - they mainly just use a browser foe the most part, work with documents occasionally and do a printout once in a while, like for flight tickets and stuff. More than a decade later, my reasoning was proven right, and I’m glad it’s been working so well. Linux was the very definition of “just working”, at least for my parents.

Spiracle ,
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Really depends on distro/use case/luck. I’ve had quite a few years without any issues, more with minimal and very rare irritations. The day-to-day experience continues is pleasant.

The few months have been somewhat more frustrating for me, and once I have a bit more leisure time I’ll switch distro to something that hopefully works better for me.

rbos ,
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I’ve worked with windows professionally for many years, and have experienced far far more stupid inexplicable frustration with windows bugs than with Linux ones. Windows bugs are intractably unfixable and require arcane workarounds more often than not.

Tanza ,
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beyond one or two mistakes of my own doing, where i didn't read or think before running a command, linux is perfectly stable compared to windows for me atleast!

Atemu , to Linux in Alright, you know what? I'll be switching.
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The 710M will give you trouble. Like, pain in the ass. See if you can disable it in BIOS; you won’t be using it for “serious” gaming anyways.

Distro doesn’t much matter. It’s fully up to personal preferences. Try them all (using Ventoy like @b9chomps recommended. Some distros make the installation and management of the Nvidia driver easier than others but you should ideally be disabling that GPU entirely.
I personally recommend Fedora to newcomers but as I said, that’s personal preference.

Note that if some piece of hardware (i.e. wifi) doesn’t work in one of them, it most likely won’t work in any distro.

It has the option of UEFI but the GeForce (I think) doesn’t support it.

This doesn’t make much sense to me. The GPU plays no role in that part of the boot process.

I’m planning to upgrade the RAM to 8 gigs and upgrade to an SSD

Get an SSD now. Even a dirt cheap one. 4GB is tenable with careful management but a hard drive will make everything excruciatingly slow, even on Linux.

oo1 ,

Get an SSD now

saw your post appear just after i made the same point.
+1 for this advice.

christopherius , to Linux in Recommend me a linux compatible laptop please
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I've been happy with my Thinkpad T480s. Got kubuntu loaded on it right now. Bought it refurbished on ebay.

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