They don’t believe in anything. They’re vapid narcissists grabbing at power. They will say and do anything for power and approval, that’s what makes them so dangerous. It wasn’t a debate up there, they weren’t debating anything, it was a popularity contest and each and every one of them danced for the crowd in their own way
All of these dorks are just auditioning for jobs in the Trump administration. They refuse to say anything bad about Trump even though they’re running in a race against him.
Except none of them will get jobs because Trump thinks they’re all dorks.
spoiler to those who were born yesterdayBarring the GOP just straight up blocking Trump from becoming the presidential nominee, Trump is going to become the presidential nominee. If Trump doesn’t become the presidential nominee, the GOP can kiss their chance at the Oval Office goodbye. Either option (Trump becoming the nominee or the GOP forfeiting their chances at getting a Republican president) means the Republican primaries debates are all complete wastes of time. They’re only worth watching if Trump’s there and it’s only because of the dunks.
I think they do serve a purpose, but not everyone on the stage was aware of what that purpose actually was. The purpose was to audition to be Trump’s new VP pick since he’s definitely not going with Pence again.
I’m not American, nor a fan of Trump, but holy shit is him not participating in these debates making him look better than the alternatives. Dude literally got arrested for the fourth time in five months, had an insane presidency, suggested shooting up bleach and shining UV lights into people’s lungs as a cure for a virus and somehow still comes across less batshit than those in the debate. Interesting times indeed.
That was a genuine thing they used to do in political primaries. They’d get a bunch of low tier party members on the stage to all fuck up and look like clowns to get the audience members going “Okay could the adults show up now please?” And that’s when the actual candidate joins the race.
This comment was spot on - I listened to an interview with Vivek Ramaswamy and thought he was one of the most insincere bullshiters I’ve heard in a long time. “Chat GPT” nails it.
Yes. Good. Tear your own party apart. Without the Republican menace to worry about, a new progressive party can arise to challenge the Democrats and yank the Overton window back where it belongs.
In my own stupid opinion, the GOP is infested by fascist thought to its very core. And yet, they got boo’d for denying climate change. Some change is good, and some change is bad, and I think the conservatives recognizing climate change is a damn good thing.
But it should have happened 20 years ago. We are seriously fucked now. Thanks Mitch.
The thing is, fascism is a populist ideology. It works best when you can point at someone and say “this thing that concerns you is insert boogeyman’s fault!”
I’m ultimately not as concerned by these hacks as the guy who comes along and actually appeals to someone besides the boomers.
As I said again and again, trump is simply following the fascist playbook. You have to at least grant it to him, it is virtually the only thing he’s good at. Do you know which other very popular democratically elected leader skipped presidential debates a few years ago? It’s the guy waging war to Ukraine.
As a non American, viewing this from the outside. Let me say this.
These guys are ridiculous please don’t vote for them. Not only do they not believe in climate change, which is insane given how much of the planet is currently ablaze, but they don’t even understand what chat GPT is. So they are corrupt and stupid.
Well, immigrants tend to be more tan from their exposure to the sun, and as we all know being more tanned is a result of having more melanins per square inch of skin. It’s also established fact that as you stuff more moles of a thing into a fixed space like America that, all other things beibg equal, the temperature goes up.
So really it’s immigration. Why does Biden hate our temperate climate??
Also, dead babies make Baby Jeebis cry dtears of hot rage, and that’s not helping with the hurricanes in the desert.
The narrative changed about 10 years ago to “well it’s happening, but humans can’t do anything about it, it’s a natural process”. No real difference, but it puts a bit more smoke and mirrors up for the rubes who believe that sort of thing since it sounds a bit less wrong.
Interesting that you can tell where someone’s political development kinda “paused” based on this. A dork who thinks climate change isn’t happening is a full 10 years behind their fellow dorks.
For context they’re using liberal to mean anyone who’s pro capitalism but not a fascist. Which is pretty dumb imo since like a third of the republican base are committed fascists (regardless of whether they’re open about it or not).
I think it’s gonna lead to more calling for nationalist sentiment. My chud brothers say shit like, “We need to secure resources for the people that contribute”. They think people walking across borders are polluting more than people flying in planes because, “Elon is trying to fix climate change”
Also once the effects get really bad they can accuse Democrats of trying to make us miserable during the final enjoyable days on Earth. We’ll let you have fun in these final moments while the Democrats will try to enslave you to sift through garbage heaps.
Edit: Actually, I was just looking into it, I think this claim is unsupported. Looks like climate change will cause a 5-25% less than what it would have been, but that’s as compared to the projected growth of yields due to improved technology and resources. So the picture is a little more muddy but still impactful.
Climate change isn’t really something you can deny anymore if you work in ag, and a lot of small-town conservatives have a close relationship to farming (not trying to stereotype, just speaking to my experience in Iowa). Yields have been declining basically every year for the last 10 or so, with wind, drought, and flooding being the top reasons. Temps in the central US reached the highest since the great depression and the dust bowl. For those people, denying the existence of climate change is basically saying you’ll do nothing to help farmers suffering from decreasing yields. It’s not a harmless “anti-woke” opinion anymore, it’s actively harmful to the material conditions of a lot of republicans.
That’s not to say it isn’t really interesting watching them dance around it. They’ll probably try to say, “yea, it’s real, but there’s no point in cutting back fossil fuels at this point. Here’s more farming subsidies to help with your decreasing yields”, and i’m betting that it will still be very effective for their base.-
Many Republicans actually believe a lot of stuff that’s true. They just tend to have One Big Issue that only the Republican candidate will support, usually something bigotry related, but for a few it’s HCGW related.
It’s been a mainstream talking point in conservative circles for a bit that climate change is real, but:
a) Us doing something won’t change anything until China and/or India also start doing something with us
b) If we started doing something, the cost would weaken us economically until China can overtake us and start influencing the world to the west’s detriment
Both of which are wrong, but it doesn’t stop conservatives from believing the talking heads. A lot of people can’t outright deny global warming anymore so they’re just shifting the blame now
It's less that he's bought and more that he's hoping to be bought. He's seeking donations from other people with a vested interest in denying human made climate change. He's not bought, he's for sale.
Wow. It is hard to believe, but they are all as dumb as Trump. Couldn't they have placed just one candidate with an IQ over 90? I mean, just for a change?
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