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Tramort , to KDE in This week in KDE: longstanding issues crushed

These are so awesome.

Kde is the best! Thank you guys!

blackfire , to KDE in This week in KDE: auto-save in Dolphin and better fractional scaling

Love the progress

MyNameIsRichard ,
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Yeah, the pace of KDE is one of the reasons I couldn’t switch from a rolling distro!

HKayn , to KDE in This week in KDE: time for the new features
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Love reading these. It’s nice to see floating panels get some continued love

Fizz , to KDE in What’s going on with Activities in Plasma 6?
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What’s the difference between activities and virtual desktops?

leopold OP ,

Activities do a lot more. Virtual desktops are purely a window management feature. They contain windows and very little else. Activities can have different, panels, wallpapers, desktop icons, etc.

JTskulk ,

The way I explain it is that it’s virtual desktops that you can start and stop at will and run scripts when doing that as well as switching to and from activities. It also has different shortcuts like this other guy said

leopold OP , to KDE in This week in KDE: everything everywhere all at once edition

glad kcalc is finally becoming usable

Molecular0079 ,

I’ve long since switched over to Qalculate. Way more functionality.

Visikde ,
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@Molecular0079 @leopold
Thanks for the tip Qalculate is very nice compared to convertall & kcalc combo I was using

fallingcats ,

Fyi, krunner can also do many unit conversions. It’s enough for 95% of what I need.

leopold OP ,

I remember trying just about every GUI calculator I could find and trying to get one I could actually tolerate. Any calculator which pointlessly hid what you’d written from you every time you added an operator like KCalc did was automatically out, which disqualified a surprisingly and disappointingly large amount of calculators. Any calculator without a standard skeuomorphic interface was also out, because I didn’t feel like relearning how to use a calculator.

I used GNOME calculator for a while, but switched away because I found the interface for programmer mode to be hella confusing when I really just wanted to have hexadecimal and binary modes. I also used Uno Calculator for a while, a direct port of the Windows 10 calculator, but the port was a bit rough and fonts didn’t work so well, otherwise it would’ve been perfect. I finally settled on Deepin Calculator. A bit basic and completely unthemable beyond switching between dark and light themes, but it was very easy to use and had all the functionality I needed. I can’t for the life of me remember why I didn’t just go with Qalculate!. I know for a fact I tried it and it seems like it would’ve been perfect. I’ll probably just be using KCalc from now on, tho.

const_void , to KDE in This week in KDE: everything everywhere all at once edition

Glad to see the weather applet getting some love with alerts.

Fredol , to KDE in Does Wayland really break everything?

Wayland didn’t break everything, but Nvidia 545 certainly did

limitedduck ,

Holy smokes, it was so bad for me I switched to AMD a week later

Secret300 ,

Haha actually same! I went out to a pawn shop and found an Rx 5500 for $75

Secret300 ,

Holy fuck facts. I’m pretty sure Nvidia never said it was stable tho but a lot of distros updated to it.

highduc , to KDE in This week in KDE: the Plasma 6 feature freeze approaches

Glad to see all the Wayland fixes. Hopefully on the drivers side it’ll work out for most people/devices.

woelkchen ,
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Hopefully on the drivers side it’ll work out for most people/devices.

Gnome is defaulting to Wayland since years and for the majority of people nothing noticeable changed. Then there are NVidia users…

SlikPikker ,

I noticed two issues actually.

  1. can’t open drop down terminal without a window selected
  2. can’t use super + $ as my “go to desktop 5” - for whatever reason.
mnglw , to KDE in This week in KDE: Wayland by default, de-framed Breeze, HDR games, rectangle screen recording

How is Wayland “ready” when critical things like idk, non QT apps quiting when the compositor crashes (and thus losing progress!) are called a “non showstopper”

klangcola ,

Yeah… This one actually is a showstopper. And I thought it was fixed, didn’t realize it was fixed for QT apps only

theHamsta ,

@klangcola @mnglw there are MRs to GTK, wlroots and SDL but the applications/framework will merge and publish the fix at their own release schedule

mnglw ,

so Wayland is not ready to be a default yet

klangcola ,

So it’s not a showstopper for KDE Wayland default because the fix is outside KDEs control?

It doesn’t really matter to end users though. So making the may-suddenly-loose-hours-of-work option the default seems unwise

theHamsta ,

@klangcola I'm not commenting on whether ot should be a show stopper or not. Just that it will eventually come also for non-Qt apps with MRs from KDE contributors to other projects.

mnglw ,

its not listed as one is the weird thing, because it totally should be

imagine drawing and suddenly your compositor crashes leading to your program to crash and you to lose hours of progress, but other QT programs are fine

should’ve used krita because that’s QT except you cant replicate your workflow in that program because it misses features (and also you dont like it)

This is a real scenario I would have to worry about. That’s a showstopper for me

klangcola ,
mnglw ,

I wonder why it isn’t anymore, because it’s been downgraded to Non-showstoppers

Zamundaaa , (edited )

How is Xorg ready when critical things like all apps crashing when the compositor display server crashes are completely ignored?

theHamsta ,

@Zamundaaa @mnglw xorg Apps don't crash when the compositor crashes, you can just switch out compositors/window managers. But xorg Apps crash when the xserver is crashing

Zamundaaa ,

Ugh, I’ve been working on Wayland too much… I meant to write display server. Thanks

Pantherina , to KDE in This week in KDE: Wayland by default, de-framed Breeze, HDR games, rectangle screen recording

A huge issue I see is that it feels like Dolphin has memory issues at the moment. I get permanent background crashes for no specific reason (already reported).

And rewriting apps in Rust is not existent for Qt, as it uses C++ a lot as far as I understood.

I dont like the design of GTK, even though its more modern in a way, but there are already lots of GTK apps in Rust.

Somehow I think KDE is a bit doomed here. Its Qt or a complete rewrite which will not happen.

Do you know more about this? A big part also is that I often hear young Devs dont learn C and C++ anymore, but maybe prefer Rust if any low level language.

I love KDEs features, and I am very excited for Plasma 6, which will hopefully be a lot more stable and cleaned up!

YaBoyMax ,

I’m all for some good old Rust evangelism, but I think it’s a bit of a stretch to claim that KDE is "doomed"in the absence of a migration path to Rust, and it’s not obvious to me that moving to Rust is somehow a necessity for the long-term viability of a project.

To your point about young devs and C/C++, afaik C is still pretty standard curriculum for CS degrees at most colleges and universities. C++ maybe not so much, but I would argue that it actually has a shallower learning curve than Rust. IMO the STL is a lot easier to get a grasp on as a newer developer than Rust’s borrow checker or lifetime system.

Knusper ,

IMO the STL is a lot easier to get a grasp on as a newer developer than Rust’s borrow checker or lifetime system.

I actually feel like Rust’s borrow checker is more difficult to learn for experienced devs. We’ve got a trainee in Rust and for her, it’s just a normal thing that variable slots hold ownership and can lend it and get it back. She does sometimes still struggle with when to clone and when to borrow, but she’s getting there.

As for the lifetime system, no one on our team really gets that one. 🙃
But (that’s because) you rarely need it.

Rustmilian ,
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euphoric_cat , to KDE in This week in KDE: Wayland by default, de-framed Breeze, HDR games, rectangle screen recording
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  • woelkchen ,
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    Maybe it’s not displayed by default. Customizing toolbars should still be possible.

    UnfortunateShort ,

    I would agree with that decision - Dolphin handles tabs very well and if the need ever arises for something like split view, I just hit ctrl + T. Feels more natural to me.

    baduhai ,
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    They didn’t, whoever took the screenshot just doesn’t have that button on their toolbar.

    SolarPunker , to KDE in This week in KDE: Final Plasma 6.1 polishing and new features for 6.2

    The clock is very small.

    Kusimulkku , to KDE in What’s going on with Activities in Plasma 6?

    I’m using Activities as beefed up workspaces to better separate personal stuff and work stuff. And to have different icons and wallpapers. It can be handy and useful on a psychological level imo to have a work activity where I just stick to work and have my work tools in favourities and taskbar and when I’m taking a break or stopping for the day, I can easily switch to free time activity. And I can seamlessly jump between the two and stop what I’m doing and leave everything open without crowding the taskbar or something.

    So consider this blog post notice that the feature is at risk of being eventually removed if people don’t step up to contribute technical work to either fix existing bugs, or else overhauling the feature to work differently.

    I’d be sad to see it removed completely. I hope they keep it, even if it is left to that “power user” niche.

    Personally, I’d like to see Activities morph into a feature whereby each activity has a separate set of settings and config data, but access to all the same user files. On top of that, you would be able to configure individual apps you use in multiple activities (like music players) to use shared settings and config data.This way it would basically be the “profiles” feature that many web browsers have now, but applied automatically to any and all apps you want.

    This could be very cool.

    baduhai , to KDE in This week in KDE: Panel Intellihide and Wayland Presentation Time
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    Panel intellihide

    It’s happening. It’s actually happening. I can hardly believe it.

    Rustmilian , to KDE in This week in KDE: Plasma 6 Alpha approaches
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    Can’t wait!

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