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kde , to KDE
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Amarok, KDE's legendary music player, is out with version 3.0.1.

https://blogs.kde.org/2024/06/02/amarok-3.0.1-released/

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leopold , (edited )

Amarok, Elisa and JuK. That's three, which is a lot, but it's not entirely uncommon for KDE to have three (or more) applications with a similar purpose.

leopold ,

afaik they're all dock widgets, meaning they can all be hidden, moved and resized at will. you can even split them off into their own windows if you want

leopold ,

I am not. Clementine is not developed as part of KDE.

leopold ,

Amarok uses Qt, just like every other KDE project. Likewise, I don't think GNOME has any project not using GTK.

leopold , (edited )

What, the grey bars? Crappy is a rude way of putting it, but yes they look pretty bad. I think that's probably an artifact from the Qt4 days. It looked fine with Oxygen. Rest looks fine to me. If you think it looks busy, well the screenshot has a lot of panels enabled, just to showcase the features. IIRC many of them are not shown by default and a user would only keep the ones they need, since the interface is customizable.

leopold ,

The problem with gaming mode is how quickly it falls appart the moment you try to use it for something other than gaming. Something as simple as having more than one window is impossible under Gamescope. That's pretty problematic when a toolkit decides to implement something as a stealth window, like GTK context menus. Qt doesn't do this as much as GTK does so using Qt applications isn't as problematic, but it's still a pain. For instance, you're extracting a file with Dolphin and a pop up window shows up to report progress, making you completely unable to access the main Dolphin window until the operation has been completed.

The best part is that SteamOS displays a little "Switch Windows" section under the "Exit game" button when you have multiple windows opened, which literally just doesn't work and as far as I can tell never has. The only thing that menu does is show you the names of the opened windows and let you close them by pressing X. Switching windows, the thing the section is literally named after, doesn't work and never has since I got a Steam Deck last year. You select a window, it gets highlighted in the menu and that's it. Nothing else happens. It doesn't switch focus or switch the window displayed by Gamescope, it does nothing.

Another thing that's often problematic is that you can't maximize windows. Say your app decides to open itself windowed, Gamescope is just going to blow that 480x360 window up to full screen and makes zero attempt to actually resize the window to fit the screen, so you're stuck with a very blurry and zoomed-in window. The maximize button in apps with CSD does nothing, but other built-in means of resizing windows or achieving full screen do often work. But these built-in means often don't exist, because applications expect to be running on a window manager that's actually capable of managing windows.

And then there's just all kinds of bugs. Say you open a game with a certain aspect ratio/resolution while also having apps with a different aspect ration/resolution open, you'll often find that when going back to your app you can't move your mouse outside the boundaries of the window for the game you just opened. Another thing I've seen with many games is that the view often gets shrunk to a tiny square in the center of the screen. There's a lot more, but I'm sick of ranting about gaming mode.

My personal take is that SteamOS's Big Picture/Gaming Mode shell sucks balls. It's impossible to make most desktop apps work well in Gaming mode without bending over backwards to work around the myriad of issues it has (for the ones that can even be worked around) and since it's closed source there's nothing you can do about it. Thus, the best solution would be to develop a new Gamepad-centric open source shell to replace it. I also think rather than repurposing Plasma Mobile applications like Angelfish it would be better to design new ones that are truly designed for gamepads. Perhaps Plasma Big Picture could be used as a starting point. But it would be a really big undertaking and there probably aren't enough devs interested right now.

leopold , (edited )

KDE3's Plastik style was closer to XP's Luna than Vista/7's Aero. The default icon theme CrystalSVG had a colorful pastel and cartoonish style. There's a full port of it to Plasma 5 here. It should still work fine in Plasma 6.

The Plasma 4 Oxygen style was much closer to the detailed realistic skeuomorphic style of Aero (though it was probably more so inspired by early OSX Aqua). It is still usable on Plasma 6 and packages for the theme should be available in your preferred distributions' repositories.

Crystal Remix is really a mix of three icon themes designed by Everaldo Coelho in the 2000s. Only the first of these, the aforementioned CrystalSVG, was ever an official KDE theme. The second is Crystal Clear, the successor to CrystalSVG. It had a more detailed and realistic style compared to CrystalSVG, looking far closer to Aero. The third one is Crystal Project, the final iteration of Crystal. It went further into Crystal Clear's direction and erased the last vestiges of CrystalSVG's more cartoonish style. Crystal Project's icons are particularly detailed and I'd consider it a really underappreciated piece of skeuomorphic icon design.

Personally, I'm not that big on Crystal Remix. I'd prefer either a complete CrystalSVG-styled icon theme or a complete Crystal Project-styled icon theme. Preferably the latter because the former already pretty much exists. The two styles don't mesh together all that well, IMO. Crystal Remix's coverage (especially for action icons) is also a bit lacking and it's pretty common to run into unthemed Breeze icons in some applications.

Crystal Dock doesn't strike me as particularly KDE3-ish. It's basically nothing like KDE3's Kicker, though there were a lot of popular third party docks in the KDE3 era like KoolDock, which were actually quite similar to this project. All of them are gone by now and there's been a lot of demand for new third party docks since the death of Latte Dock. So I anticipate this project will make quite a few people happy.

kde , to KDE
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KDE Gear 24.05 is out! It comes with new versions of Dolphin, Kdenlive, Merkuro, Elisa, Kate, many more apps, and no ads or spyware.

https://kde.org/announcements/gear/24.05.0

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leopold , (edited )

Kontact is on Flathub, so it is definitely possible.

EDIT: Merkuro is apparently bundled with the Kontact Flatpak. Seems like they're just shoving anything that uses Akonadi in that package. So on one hand, it seems there is a Merkuro Flatpak already. On the other hand, it's bundled with a bunch of extra stuff you probably don't need if you're using Merkuro (like the entire Kontact suite), so you're probably better off with distro packages.

Maybe I'm just new, but I just realized you can Ctrl-select or Ctrl-dblclick individual, separate pieces of text and copy them to the clipboard in one operation.

I have no idea how long this has been a thing, and maybe every clipboard works that way, not just Plasma, and I never realized it. It also lets you do things like Rt-click on it and do the regular operations like Search in Firefox. Spaces aren't preserved unless you specifically select them but search engines seem to be able...

leopold ,

Firefox and LibreOffice aren't part of KDE, but Kate and Okular are. So the fact only the former two support this feature indicates it's not from KDE. This should probably be supported by KDE though (or by Qt? perhaps this should be done on the toolkit level rather than on the application level). Holding ctrl to multi-select is standard behaviour in a lot of applications and is quite useful. For what it's worth, Krita does support this, but you need to hold shift instead of ctrl.

leopold ,

The Foo is obviously from Foobar. Google translate says "fuyin" is "copy" in Chinese, which I guess could make sense since it's a copy of foobar2000. It also says "fooyin" is "I'm sorry" in Somali, which is probably a coincidence because that makes no sense.

EDIT: One of the screenshots in the README is in Chinese so yeah that's probably it.

kde , to KDE
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MBition, the company that designs and implements infotainment systems for Mercedes-Benz, has become a KDE patron.

MBition uses KDE technologies and developers' know-how to create attractive and responsive interfaces that make Mercedes vehicles easier to drive and safer for their occupants.

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https://ev.kde.org/2024/05/07/mbition-becomes-kde-patron/

leopold ,

KDE is based in Germany, just like Mercedes and BMW. GNOME is based in the US, so they should instead get sponsored by General Motors or Ford to keep the rivalry going.

leopold ,

Breeze for iced and Cosmic for Qt. That's the elephant in the room, I'd say. Another solution would be to attempt a common theming system for Qt and iced. Both solutions are particularly high effort, but it's easily what's going to have the most noticeable impact.

I assume the Cosmic people already know this, but it's also important to make an effort to follow the usual cross-desktop standards, like the icon-theme-spec, icon-naming-spec, sound-theme-spec, org.freedesktop.appearance accent-color, org.freedesktop.appearance color-scheme or org.freedesktop.portal.FileChooser.

It would also be nice to support a few unofficial standards KDE uses, like appmenus.

leopold ,

For some reason this got me wondering what the anti-default Plasma install would be like, with every single option set to a non-default value.

leopold ,

My opinion is that this instance is too small for it to be worth it. We already have other communities and they are very inactive. The Krita and LabPlot communities barely see any activity and they're some of KDE's biggest applications. The KDE Edu and Akademy communities are even deader. Even by combining everything else into one community this instance isn't exactly busting with activity, so best not divide things further. It's already seeing fierce competition from the more official KDE Discuss (and the Krita Discuss) and the more popular KDE subreddit (and the Kdenlive and Krita subreddits).

leopold OP ,

Work on a KF5 release had already started years ago and was mostly completed. With the recent revival of the project, it made sense to take things one step at a time and complete the KF5 port first.

leopold ,

Nope, that's already merged. What's left is for all the parts to actually release.

leopold ,

We know from Nvidia developers that they have already implemented the protocol into their driver and that it will be present in the next release. This is exactly the same situation as with the rest of the stack, the only difference is that we don't have access to git builds since it's proprietary.

leopold ,

Yes. Arch does not support partial upgrades. Always update every package. You can try to delete it, but you might still have a package that depends on it if you have an application that hasn’t yet made the move to Qt6. Also, using Discover for package management on Arch-based distros is not recommended. Discover uses PackageKit for distro packages and its use is discouraged by Arch due to a number of issues.

Amarok might be coming back in 2024

Amarok was KDE’s flagship music player during the KDE3 and Plasma 4 days. For Plasma 5, a new music player called Elisa was created with Kirigami which is the current KDE flagship music player. The last full release of Amarok was 2.9.0 in 2018, still targeting Qt4. A Plasma 5 port was started with the intention of being...

leopold OP ,

right, spellcheck didn’t catch it since both is also a word. already caught and edited, tho.

kdenlive , to KDE
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This year is participating in Season of KDE with two projects. Check out the progress of the students:

Implementing Multi-format Rendering:
https://ajayslog.vercel.app/posts/season-of-kde-01/

Enabling editing of keyframe curves and advanced keyframe types:
https://aisuneko.moe/posts/sok24-blog1/

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leopold ,

the blogs don’t seem to be on planet kde

leopold ,

You should use the BugZilla to report bugs, not GitLab. bugs.kde.org

MylesRyden , to KDE
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This looks very interesting, something any opensource organization/project might want to emulate. Right @kde ?

Introducing Canonical’s Open Documentation Academy | Ubuntu

https://ubuntu.com/blog/introducing-canonicals-open-documentation-academy

leopold ,
leopold ,

how is ktorrent not working properly now and how is it getting fixed in plasma 6?

How do you change the rotation of a widget precisely?

I’m a newbie and am using kubuntu. I’ve installed a widget called plasma fancy clock. I rotated the widget on the screen to fit with the wallpaper (brick lines of a tilted wall) but realized that the angle I wanted was between non-rotated and the smallest angle I could rotate. Could someone please give me some advice? Maybe...

kdenlive , to Random
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Hey video-makers! 🎥 This week, we stumbled upon community member @pocketvj crafting cinematic magic with on a smartphone powered by @postmarketOS and @begasus explored editing on ! ✨ Tell us where do you use Kdenlive. Send your screenshot! 💻🖥️🌌

Kdenlive interface running on PostmarketOS

leopold ,

Haiku is lacking in the GPU driver department, but it does have some afaik. Hardware acceleration should be possible.

gcompris , (edited ) to KDE
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KDE's educational software for kids, GCompris, releases version 4.0 with 8 new activities.

GCompris 4.0 contains 190 educational activities and games 🎲, adding 8 new ones: "Grammar classes", "Grammar analysis", "Calcudoku", "Guess 24", "Frieze", "Read a graduated line", "Use a graduated line", and "Adjacent numbers".

All activities are translated to over 40 languages.

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https://gcompris.net/news/2024-02-21-en.html

leopold ,

The name is like this because it originally was a GNOME project. It moved over to KDE after the lead developer found GTK to be insufficient for Android support and decided to port to QtQuick.

leopold ,

Well, it was on GNOME’s GitLab instance so I figured it was GNOME, but I guess that’s not quite the same thing since GIMP is also on there and that’s not GNOME.

leopold , (edited )

A product of its time. KDE 2 released in 2000 and this is a pre-release screenshot of a non-default theme. The default KDE 2 theme looked like this. It was competing with the likes of Windows Me, Mac OS 9 and GNOME 1.

leopold , (edited )

Looks like Motif with its trademark terrible contrast (black text on dark grey, very accessible) and a lame marble texture slapped on top of it. Also that button in the bottom left corner has like zero margins. Very 2000 overall. Not something I’d ever want to use, tho. To be fair, the default theme KDE 2 ended up using was significantly better.

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