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oxjox , to Politics in Wisconsin governor gets creative with veto, increases public school funding for 400 years
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LOL Page 158

Aldehyde ,

The result was good this time, but doesn’t that allow the governor to pass any law as long as they can find the right words in the right order? I can easily imagine this going very wrong.

parrot-party ,
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I'm pretty sure this was done to freak out the legislation and force them to remove the partial veto

Madison_rogue ,
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They can only remove it via constitutional amendment, so it would have to go to the voters first.

QHC ,
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not remove the power of veto, just override this specific exercise of it

AshDene ,
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The manipulation of the numbers suggests that you just need the right letters in the right order...

cupcakezealot , to Politics in Wisconsin governor gets creative with veto, increases public school funding for 400 years
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“Oh there’s just a little space dust on here, let me get that for you”

For real, though, Evers is awesome. More Democratic governors should start standing up to Republicans like this.

Bipta , to Politics in Wisconsin governor gets creative with veto, increases public school funding for 400 years

I'm glad about the funding but partial vetoes and line item vetoes should be outlawed.

dumples , to Politics in Wisconsin governor gets creative with veto, increases public school funding for 400 years
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This is kind of a dick move but the republican congress in Wisconsin removed a bunch of his powers in a lame duck session. You if play dirty you can expect things like this. Wisconsin is kind of a mess politically

Madison_rogue ,
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Wisconsin has had a line item veto since 1930, and it has been used by Democrats and Republicans.

Yeah Robin Vos did a lot of shady things to curtail Evers' executive powers prior to him taking office, yet this kind of veto power has been used before. Both Scott Walker and Tommy Thompson used the veto power during their time in office as well.

Here's a history of the line item veto from the Wisconsin.gov website.

Ethereal87 , to U.S. News in Wisconsin governor gets creative with veto, increases public school funding for 400 years
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I mean, the job of a governor (or President) isn’t to legislate like this. Laws should come from the elected representatives under the guidance of the head of state. And of course we’ll all be outraged when an Republican does this when they’re in power and they enact some god awful nonsense. We should push for better accountability from our elected officials and less of this universal declaration of whatever our current overlord sees fit to do.

With that out of the way, holy crap is he clever to edit “2024-25” into “2425” and set this program up for a very long time (assuming it doesn’t get struck down somehow).

brndnpink ,

Yep. Wisconsinite here (and a teacher as well). I have mixed feelings on this. I’d be fuming if a Republican governor pulled something like this and I generally think it’s a power governors shouldn’t have. However, when held against the context of the way GOP has operated within the letter of the law to entrench themselves within Wisconsin politics, I’m all for Democrats using tactics like this. GOP will use them and it’s unfair for everyone to expect Dems to take the high road at the expense of our policy priorities.

In my perfect world I’d get rid of both this power and the GOP gerrymander in Wisconsin

soiling ,
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agreed, this is a power that should not exist. I’m glad it was used here for good, and I also also recognize that the GOP plays dirty in every way they can, but it is scary that the intent of a law could just be completely rewritten by the governor. let’s hope WI can become more robust to abuse before a fascist ever gets elected governor

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btaf45 OP , to Politics in Trump's former lawyer was indicted in Georgia. She wants his defense funds to pay her legal fees.

LMFAO! Another case where Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump's lawyers now need their own lawyers. And he is too cheap to pay for his lawyer's lawyers.

niucllos ,

He rarely pays his own lawyers, why the heck would he pay anyone else’s?

mySFWaccount , to Politics in Trump's former lawyer was indicted in Georgia. She wants his defense funds to pay her legal fees.

If you’re going to be complicit in a coup, you’d better make sure you pull it off.

Neato ,
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It's much like a rebellion or revolution (which Jan 6 was). You either win and become revolutionaries, or you hang for treason.

keeb420 ,

Or you get a slap on the wrist like so many who tried a coup on Jan 6th.

DrPop ,

If you were beating cops and entered the capital building you’re guilty. I can’t stand how long this has taken.

spaceghoti , to Politics in Trump's former lawyer was indicted in Georgia. She wants his defense funds to pay her legal fees.

Giuliani is begging for Trump’s help to pay his legal fees, and he’s not getting it. Trump won’t take care of anyone but Trump. And Ivanka.

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  • Neato ,
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    I'm guessing Trump is betting on a conviction but having his sentence just be house arrest. And if they don't take away his phone, not that much difference than his current life sans touring. And if he wins the Presidency, obviously his sentence must be halted. Or just interpret the "house" as the white house and all presidential property or some shit.

    echodot ,

    I don’t understand how the US constitution allows a convicted felon to be president.

    What’s it even for if it allows that?

    Countess425 , (edited )
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    There are certain crimes at certain levels that bar one from running for office; attempted coup and dissemination of national secrets to our enemies being some of the reasons to exclude one from seeking/holding office, and such charges account for 3 of his 4 current cases. The hush money to Stormy Daniels/campaign finance violations are likely not enough to keep him from office.

    Edit: Also our judicial system is based on the premise that one is innocent until proven guilty, so just being charged with a crime is typically not enough to level punishments as if one had been convicted yet. It’s supposed to make him an undesirable candidate, but decorum doesn’t matter anymore all of a sudden. 🤷‍♀️

    Bread ,

    The same way game developers miss game breaking bugs when you do bizarre things to achieve them. It happens because who the fuck would ever think of that until some crazy person goes and does it?

    Like jumping between parallel universes in super Mario 64. It is so unexpected you don’t plan for it. If even if they did, why would any prison bound candidate have any chance of winning under any normal circumstances?

    argv_minus_one ,

    What if some tyrants take over and make it a federal felony to run against them? That’s how Putin stays in power. But if being a convicted felon doesn’t stop you from taking office, then the tyrants can’t use that to keep themselves in power.

    Boddhisatva ,

    The vast majority of felonies should not be a bar to holding public office. What if you had a felony conviction for possession of weed? Should that bar you from holding office or should you be allowed to run for office to try and change an unjust law?

    The only crimes that should bar one from office are the ones that already do under the 14th Amendment, under which Trump should already be ineligible. He swore an oath to defend the Constitution and then participated in a conspiracy to violently overthrow it.

    Countess425 ,
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    If he wins the Presidency, he will pardon himself and likely install himself imperator or some shit.

    floofloof ,

    Impratbvefe

    hillbicks ,
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    If he gets convicted on Georgia, only the prison board of Georgia can pardon him, not even the Governor has that kind of power on georgia.

    droans ,

    161 different acts of racketeering and/or acts to further the conspiracy.

    And all the prosecutor needs to prove is two acts of racketeering. The false statements alone are obvious enough.

    Treczoks ,

    Maybe Ivanka. If dropping her into the hole would save his ass, I would not bet on her future to be good.

    extant ,

    Nah, he’d help Ivanka if she agreed to terms I’m sure. Ivana on the other hand is going to end up in a hole on a golf course with the other one.

    spider , (edited ) to Politics in Trump's former lawyer was indicted in Georgia. She wants his defense funds to pay her legal fees.

    Smart enough to be a lawyer, yet dumb enough to not understand that loyalty with Trump is a one-way street.

    keeb420 , to Politics in Trump's former lawyer was indicted in Georgia. She wants his defense funds to pay her legal fees.

    Now this is funny.

    coleandfries , to Politics in Trump's former lawyer was indicted in Georgia. She wants his defense funds to pay her legal fees.

    Now that the lights are on, the roaches are scurrying.

    Potatos_are_not_friends , to Politics in Trump's former lawyer was indicted in Georgia. She wants his defense funds to pay her legal fees.
    gravitas_deficiency , to Politics in Trump's former lawyer was indicted in Georgia. She wants his defense funds to pay her legal fees.

    Lmao the fact that she says that makes me think she’s never met him

    Treczoks , to Politics in Trump's former lawyer was indicted in Georgia. She wants his defense funds to pay her legal fees.

    He will need all the money for himself. His stance is probably "Nice that you helped me, bitch, but I'm not paying for your trouble".

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