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Shadywack , to Work Reform in The 4-day workweek was a longshot. The UAW isn’t giving up
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Being stuck on a 40 hour work week, but just doing four tens, I can say the 32 hour concept needs to continue having traction. More and more people are waking up to the reality that work is just work. There’s life to live and we have the means nationally to allow for a meaningful life. When considering employment, only getting two days off is a dealbreaker.

WarmSoda ,

I agree. I won’t do four ten hour shifts. You’re just adding two more soul crushing hours to your day.

toynbee ,

But removing one entire soul crushing day from your week, allowing you to sleep in, do chores or errands, go somewhere fun, whatever you want. You are less free to do those things with the two extra hours per day because the two hours are probably before or after when many places are open, plus you and any compatriots with whom you might want to associate are more likely to be tired from work. (I’m speaking of a hypothetical “you,” not necessarily you personally, of course.)

I certainly think 4x8 should be implemented as the standard, but until that happens, I consider 4x10 to be far, far preferable to 5x8, especially if you get to choose your day off. I’ve mostly worked 4x10 for many years and the few times I’ve had to switch back to 5x8 have been soul crushing due to how much opportunity and “me time” I’ve lost.

I didn’t know I wanted it until the first job that offered it, but now it’s a requirement I’ll mention the first time I speak to any recruiter.

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  • Shadywack ,
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    This right here, I get the bulk of my responsibility completed in about 20 hours, where the rest of the time my particular role is that I’m compensated for “being available”. As for completion of my duties and helping the mission of the company is concerned, 32 hours for the same pay would actually save the company money. The “optics” though is what companies fear, and they don’t want to lose their leverage and power over workers.

    agent_flounder ,
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    Agreed. Sure it is nice getting 3 day weekends but I am not cut out for 10h days. I just cannot be productive that long.

    I’m glad that younger generations are more about work to live instead of pointless live to work bullshit. I saw my mom fall into that trap. Not worth it.

    I don’t even hate my job. I like it. But I have way too many other things I could do with my time and life is fucking short. Going above and beyond so some rich douchebags can get more rich? Kinda low on the priority list.

    What’s the point if you work until you die or even if you retire at 60-something and only get a few years to enjoy the free time before you’re too sick or dead? Saw my mom do that too. No thanks.

    Let me know when I can join a union. All of us ought to link up and fight for a 4 day, 32 hr work week and enough money and benefits to retire at a younger age.

    Zaktor ,

    Sure it is nice getting 3 day weekends but I am not cut out for 10h days. I just cannot be productive that long.

    There’s a strong argument that people also can’t be productive for 5x8h days. Cases of the Mondays, Friday afternoons, just staring at the wall. I think a fundamental aspect of the standard workweek is a lot of employees are sometimes just at work without actually being productive. That’s why some studies find no reduction in productivity when people go 4x8.

    Shadywack ,
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    I’d be happy if I could just retire on time, which I don’t think is going to happen. I look at many people and still feel lucky that I “only” have to work 40 hours. People are compelled to work 60+ just for their subsistence and even they won’t have enough to retire.

    t3rmit3 , to U.S. News in Senate aide out of job after purported sex tape apparently filmed in Senate hearing room | CNN Politics

    Was it Cawthorn and his cousin-brother again?

    AllNewTypeFace , to Work Reform in Woman who threw bowl of food at Chipotle worker sentenced to work 2 months in fast food job
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    How will the logistics of this work? Are there fast-food restaurants that would accept a privileged Karen with anger management issues as a member of their team? After all, they have a business with tight margins to run, and this sounds like a huge liability.

    enbee ,
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    most fast food places are desperate for staff right now. if they get a guaranteed 60 days out of a hire I bet they say yes.

    carebear , to U.S. News in At least 22 dead and suspect at large in mass shootings in area of Lewiston, Maine

    how are there only 3 non-bot comments on this massive news story? 🫣

    memfree OP ,

    no one has new news and the initial reports were way wrong?

    alyaza Mod ,
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    initial reports weren’t all that far off (22 dead vs 18, 3 locations vs 2) but yes most of this is because there’s not that much to report other than sheer number of fatalities and the fatalism people have toward mass shootings in this country. there are only so many novel things you can say when we have a minimum of one or two double-digit death toll mass shootings a year.

    mateomaui , to U.S. News in Trump attorney Sidney Powell pleads guilty in Georgia election subversion case | CNN Politics

    tough break for Cheese Bro

    memfree OP ,

    And now he’s pled out, too!

    ulkesh , to U.S. News in Trump attorney Sidney Powell pleads guilty in Georgia election subversion case | CNN Politics
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    Two dominos have fallen…

    nicetriangle , to Politics in Trump attorney Sidney Powell pleads guilty in Georgia election subversion case | CNN Politics
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    lol fucking doofuses catching charges left and right

    bloopernova , to Politics in [News] John Kelly goes on the record to confirm several disturbing stories about Trump | CNN Politics
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    When asked if he’d still vote repub, he responded “fuck yes, democrats don’t pay me”

    /s

    MedicPigBabySaver , to Work Reform in Judge: Starbucks violated federal labor law by withholding pay hikes from unionized workers | CNN Business
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    Fuck Starbucks. I kicked them to the curb about 2 years ago.

    jordanlund , to Politics in New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud | CNN Politics
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    “I demand summary judgement!”

    “GRANTED!”

    “No… not like that…”

    IIRC this is the case where his lawyers neglected to ask for a jury trial, so it’s all on the judge and he IS NOT having it…

    Steeve , to Work Reform in Flashback - Mark Zuckerberg on billionaires: 'No one deserves to have that much money'

    I mean, hate on him if you want, but this isn’t really hypocritical. He doesn’t take a salary, his entire fortune is from Meta stock he owns, and he has a sort of Bill Gates thing going on where he plans to donate the majority of his Meta stock wealth through his own foundation. From what I’ve heard they’ve funded some serious medical advancements and have plans to bring more AI to the space.

    I don’t think billionaires should exist either, but it’s not like he can just give it all away without losing control of his company.

    curiousPJ , to Work Reform in UAW workers launch unprecedented strike against all Big Three automakers | CNN Business

    Hopefully this kick starts a new normal to a 32 hour work day and traditional pensions.

    AllonzeeLV , to Politics in Clarence Thomas officially discloses private trips on GOP donor Harlan Crow's plane | CNN Politics

    This country is a joke 🤣

    blazera , to Politics in Clarence Thomas officially discloses private trips on GOP donor Harlan Crow's plane | CNN Politics
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    Briber you mean.

    SlowNPC , to Politics in [News] House Judiciary Committee expected to launch inquiry into Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis
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    "Sure, our guy is indicted for dozens of serious crimes you saw him commit on TV, but all their people are under investigation. Best not look into it too deep, conclude they're all corrupt, and keep voting for the party that reinforces your prejudices."

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