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Mautobu , to RedditMigration in Please ignore this. I'm just still trying to wrap my head around this federated social media.

This is the equivalent post to, “don’t upvote this post.”

Gordon_Freeman , to RedditMigration in Is there an r/all equivalent?
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Nicenightforawalk ,

How do I add that to my list as I have to keep scrolling and scrolling trying to get to the bottom to follow that channel and given up. Surely there is an easier way of following something

Gordon_Freeman ,
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

Press the cogwheel next to the federation icon (by default is on the right, under your username)

In the options select "Show Top bar"

Top right there is a link to "All"

ezmack , to RedditMigration in Reddit Refugee here venting

I say this with all sincerity; log off. Just for a bit to reset your relationship with sites like reddit. If you do you won’t care what happens on reddit

MonkeyScryer OP ,

Thanks. You’re right. I don’t have much of an option since I got the 7 day ban for calling the mods “pigs” and “cowards” for permabanning me from a subreddit. I need to touch grass, delete that account so Spez has less numbers, and then build up stuff on here.

ijustdoeyes ,
@ijustdoeyes@kbin.social avatar

I think we're missing a bit of context here.

XEAL ,

Mods may “work for free”, but they sure get a kick with powertripping. Fuck them, just like admins and Spez.

Bizarroland ,
@Bizarroland@kbin.social avatar

I left the site when they announced the API changes and honestly it's kind of like coming down off of a drug. I was so used to filling my free time by just Doom scrolling through Reddit and without rif to make it easy for me it just isn't worth the effort. I'm not going to use their shitty app, I'm not going to browse their mobile site, and I'm not going to support a company that doesn't listen to its users.

I don't use Facebook or any meta products for that reason.

I don't shop at Walmart for similar reasons. I don't shop at Amazon for similar reasons. I don't shop at home Depot for similar reasons. Vote with your wallet, vote with your time, and that's not just at the polls but in your daily life.

You may be a drop in the bucket but don't be a drop in a bucket of gasoline when the world is already on fire.

flauschke OP , to selfhosted in trying to self host kbin - federation not working?

I fixed it. It seems to work now. For future reference:

Due to my reverse proxy setup the php container identified it’s own URL as being accessed via HTTP. Settings HTTPS=on in the config did the trick. This will force symfony to assume HTTPS for all communication.

Edit: it seems my comments are not being federated so I could still use some help. Edit 2: it seems all it needed was some patience

eitch , to Linux in This again: What distro are you using for gaming?

I've been using PopOS and Steam installed in Flatpak, as well as native and both have worked really well. Lutris i have installed through flatpak, as otherwise it sometimes gave me issues. This is running really well on my AMD 5950x and 6800XT

sadreality ,

same here and lutris was giving me shit with ea app, I could not get controller to work. I ended buying BF on steam and it works flawlessly.

not even going to bother anymore. steam 100% for gaming, idiot proof implementation is about ready for the normie stream.

Thteven , to RedditMigration in Does anyone regret deleting their Reddit account?
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Nope, good riddance.

eatmoregreenfood , to RedditMigration in Does anyone regret deleting their Reddit account?
@eatmoregreenfood@kbin.social avatar

Not even a little bit and I was on Reddit since like 2011

Madison_rogue , to RedditMigration in Does anyone regret deleting their Reddit account?
@Madison_rogue@kbin.social avatar

No regerts...not even one letter.

Seriously, I deleted my posts and comments by my cake day (June 26th), and deleted my account on June 29th. Good riddance.

GeenVliegtuig , (edited ) to RedditMigration in Does anyone regret deleting their Reddit account?

I didn't delete anything, because there's quite a bit of programming & tech advice. I always knew reddit was profiting off my contribution, everybody should have known that from the beginning.

I'll stop contributing, but I don't like how much useful information has gone dark or otherwise suddenly just been lost. I wouldn't burn a library down because they started charging exorbitant late fees, I would just stop going there.

Ashtear ,
@Ashtear@kbin.social avatar

Why I left mine intact. The Reddit "library," as it were, remains one of the largest and most significant public goods online. I think that's more important than burning my contributions in the hopes that Reddit management will do a 180. I also pinned a post advertising kbin/lemmy and Squabbles on my profile.

I'm certainly no longer participating, however, and I don't think Reddit's built to survive only on visitors from Google.

blkwolf ,

I didn't delete my account, but I did wipe out my post history.

I keep my account active because I've already found a couple of instances where reddit restored my posts in particular sub reddits ands I had to delete them again.

ArtieShaw ,
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I wish I had gone with this route, but I honestly didn't foresee the possibility that admin might restore what's been deleted or edited.

I had no intention of ever using the account to add content in the future, but in retrospect it would have been better to keep it in a dormant state.

quirzle ,
@quirzle@kbin.social avatar

Tech/programming stuff is exactly why I did nuke mine. Going isn't as meaningful if you leave a bunch of value behind when you do. While I'm here for entertainment now, I'm often spending my reddit time during work hours on vendor-hosted support forums, stackexchange, etc. now.

Gradually, that library will be relocated to other places. Instead of just not going, I think it's better to take away others' reasons for going too, give them reason to seek out better libraries.

masterX244 ,
@masterX244@kbin.social avatar

Good thing is that the content is not lost for those that know to surf the web. But those locations don't help reddit at all (main one is the wayback machine from archive.org and then there is a raw datadump of anyhting up to march 2023 as JSON)

density ,
@density@kbin.social avatar

If I deleted my account I would never again get that special feeling of conducting a websearch to solve some problem and finding a hit from a person who looks like they are having exactly the same issue as me, only to find it was me posting 2 years ago and there are no useful responses.

Makes me wonder how identifiable I am by my "accent" online... I must phrase things in unusual ways. And I spend a lot of time trying to solve problems that are either unsolvable or over my head..

I always find this situation crushing, demoralizing and very funny and until lemmy has better search indexing I don't want to give it up.

Also I wrote things I think were useful too. But I don't stumble no them.

HipPriest ,

Same here, I just stopped using it. I never had the urge to burn the place down.

Not that erasing my paltry contributions over the years will probably have made that much difference but who knows if it helps someone in a future Google search that's a good thing.

Openminded-skeptic ,

Yeah- there is so much information that is more detailed and accurate to specific situations in almost every area that would be lost to the future.

And you literally never know what weird take on a current situation, or what seemingly small detail of information about a field of knowledge might be important to people, historians, etc., in the future. So much of our knowledge is in our inherent understanding of how the world is right now, that we tend to assume that that knowledge will always be there and available, but that's not necessarily the case.

Anyway. I get deleting, or even removing maybe some of the more frivolous content if possible, ("This" "So much this" somes to mind lol) but I think it's ok to preserve that history.

PriorProject , to RedditMigration in Is there 'etiquette' for choosing which instance your migrated subreddit is hosted on?

There’s a lot of factors to consider, enough factors that there’s no consensus on how you make this choice and at the end of the day you have to pick one and run with it.

A random list of some factors you could potentially consider before yolo’ing:

  • Is the admin team good? Are they power-tripping jerks? Are they ideologues who are likely to defederate the world for no sensible reason? Do they have a good head for policy? There’s no easy way to evaluate this, you have to look at the sidebar to see who the admins are, stalk their posts a bit, read the modlog for banned users (but he aware that moderation decisions are federated and anonymous so it can be hard to tell what mod did what), and you yourself have to be good enough at these things to recognize quality (or at least alignment with your own values).
  • Is the instance well-funded and is the admin team prepared to deal with the serious stuff like child-porn reports and subpoenas? Again, this is hard to check for. Basically, if an instance has been pretty big for years (there are only like 2 or 3 Lemmy instances like this and they’re all overloaded) or has the admin team run some other big service before?
  • Are the instance rules compatible with your topic? Don’t run a porn sub in an instance that bans porn. There are vibe concerns as well, like an edgelord meme community is not going to do well on a hyper-moderated safe-space-oriented instance.
  • Is the community topic geographically based? You might want to pick an instance homed in that geography. This can be eval’ed by using ip-lookup tools of the instance doesn’t advertise its geography.
  • Is the instance homed in a jurisdiction that has favorable laws for your topic? It’s better to host a community for sex-work or bourbon on an instance in a jurisdiction where those things are legal, rather than in the UAE.
  • Is there a topic instance that specializes in your topic? There’s a pathfinder TTRPG instance and a star trek instance, is there one for your topic? Note that topic-based instances can fail some other and more important criteria like being an experienced admin team. It’s possible that a topic instance is NOT the right choice, but it’s worth considering.
  • Is the server overloaded already? Mebbe pick a different one.
  • Is there already a well run community on another instance? Help that one grow, don’t splinter the community further.

There are many more factors to consider, and no one considers them all. Eventually you have to pick an instance that’s “good enough” and run with it. But those are some of the major factors one could consider if you’re willing to put in the non-trivial amount of effort required to evaluate them.

HaunchesTV OP ,

There’s a lot here I’d not considered so this is helpful, thanks.

The splintering is an issue I’ve run into already. When I searched for squaredcircle on the assumption the subreddit community had started moving, I got results for five ‘squaredcircle’ communities across five different instances and none of them have a significant membership. I don’t want to further splinter the community by creating another community as you say, so I figured I’d just have to subscribe to all of them and wait to see which one takes off. I guess it’s going to be down to the subreddit mods to say “this is where we’re going”, if that’s even what they want to do. Until then it might be a bit daunting for those making the jump but it is what it is.

PriorProject ,

The splintering is an issue I’ve run into already. When I searched for squaredcircle on the assumption the subreddit community had started moving, I got results for five ‘squaredcircle’ communities across five different instances and none of them have a significant membership.

Yeah, I blame Lemmy’s fairly terrible cross-instance community discovery and just being young. Reddit had overlapping communities as well (tons of DnD subreddits, tons of aiti subreddits, and there were plenty of high-profile community split events over mod policies). But because it was so well established in recent years… most communities had standardized on one well-run subreddit.

But Lemmy’s community search is so poor, I think folks legit fail to find bigger/better off-instance communities and so no single one gets a toe-hold to gain critical-mass… they all just kind of smoulder with catching fire. Hopefully better community discovery will come and the well-run communities start to rise to the top.

RheingoldRiver ,

Were you a subreddit mod? In this case my advice would be to contact the existing mods of the lemmy communities / kbin magazines and see if one of them is willing to hand the community over to you (add you as mod, they step down). If so, you've found your new home!

(you may want to re-make your account on the instance that you're primarily spending time on, for convenience, in case federation doesn't work for several hours at a time here and there, etc)

Crankpork ,

At the same time as keeping an eye out for "power tripping jerks" you want to watch for poorly moderated instances as well. Instances with little to no moderation are at risk of being defederated by other instances if they can't stop their users from trolling/harrassing/evading bans/blocks, etc. You don't want to set yourself up on what seems like a big instance only to have it disconnected from the rest of them because bad actors decided it was a safe haven for acting up.

digitalspork , to RedditMigration in Haven't touched reddit since July 1st

Having come from helping run some very large communities as well as a lot of niche communities.

Kbin and Lemmy give me the same kind of feeling Reddit gave me almost 12+ years ago.

digitalspork , to RedditMigration in Reddit Notifications?

I deleted Reddit from my phone and I have all email notifications off, I don't get Reddit Notifications anymore.

Bushwhack , to RedditMigration in Please ignore this. I'm just still trying to wrap my head around this federated social media.

To the front page you go! Upvote!

Laxaria , to RedditMigration in What's your opinion on cross-posting?

The content porting really only means something when it’s not overwhelming and the person doing the content porting is actively planning to participate in the submissions.

The easiest way to get someone to not comment on something is a wall of submissions with a fair number of upvotes and few to no comments. At this point, it’s just a glorious RSS feed rather than an actual community.

Driving user growth actually requires putting in the leg work to make meaningful submissions, following-up on them, commenting on submissions, and upvoting content. All of this takes actual effort though. A bot content porting content from Reddit to Lemmy doesn’t do much and for a number of people, looks much more like artificial engagement rather than any meaningfully sincere attempt at growing a community.

Some of the (World/US) News and Politics related communities are so barren of comments despite the deluge of content porting submissions, while other communities have blown up into their own distinct thing because people are making sincere, organic (enough) submissions.

imaqtpie ,
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Very insightful points. I totally agree about the intimidation factor of spamming posts with no comments or organic interaction. But it's also a fine line, someone needs to be posting something to get the ball rolling.

I also want to continue spreading the word about federation issues. I've been on Lemmy for a month now and it's going great. But that whole time, it's essentially been impossible to comment on kbin magazines. The comments simply don't show up. I'm not seeing most of your comments when browsing here from Lemmy, but I am seeing Lemmy comments.

I obviously have this account, but its annoying to keep switching between accounts, plus I haven't really gotten the hang of the kbin interface yet.

Point being, I suspect much of the sluggishness of organic growth is not due to a small userbase, but rather due to the fact nobody can actually find the threads and comment on them efficiently. We need to remain steadfast and trust that the developers will fix this stuff up soon. I really feel that simply making Lemmy and kbin federate perfectly would immediately make this platform 10 times more active. We have plenty of people but right now we are fragmented into parallel communities. This isn't even getting into the server overload at a number of Lemmy instances.

I just don't want people to write off the platform before we can see how it's actually meant to work. I've seen a ton of brilliant comments on kbin and I haven't even had the chance to really mix it up with you guys yet.

OpenStars , to RedditMigration in I was so hopeful that Reddit might see reason, but at this point, pigboy can take reddit and stuff it up his spez
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HE will not concede - it's jut not in his nature. There is a remote chance that he could be forcibly evicted by those that he must report to, but it would take a sudden and rather dramatic drop in the quality of content (hahaha I can't even say that with a straight face) amount of money they receive from advertising to make that happen. Thus that is unlikely to happen either.

In any case, does it matter? Now that we've all woken up from the spell - the illusion that things could be both "easy" and free while still being controlled by a for-profit company, just like with wikipedia but without the hassle of it needing donations to continue going forward - why would we ever want to go back, regardless?

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