Honestly the whole point of capitalism is that the owners of the business get to decide what their moral responsibility is and if you don’t like that then maybe we should try something else
Well, immigrants tend to be more tan from their exposure to the sun, and as we all know being more tanned is a result of having more melanins per square inch of skin. It’s also established fact that as you stuff more moles of a thing into a fixed space like America that, all other things beibg equal, the temperature goes up.
So really it’s immigration. Why does Biden hate our temperate climate??
Also, dead babies make Baby Jeebis cry dtears of hot rage, and that’s not helping with the hurricanes in the desert.
The narrative changed about 10 years ago to “well it’s happening, but humans can’t do anything about it, it’s a natural process”. No real difference, but it puts a bit more smoke and mirrors up for the rubes who believe that sort of thing since it sounds a bit less wrong.
Interesting that you can tell where someone’s political development kinda “paused” based on this. A dork who thinks climate change isn’t happening is a full 10 years behind their fellow dorks.
For context they’re using liberal to mean anyone who’s pro capitalism but not a fascist. Which is pretty dumb imo since like a third of the republican base are committed fascists (regardless of whether they’re open about it or not).
I think it’s gonna lead to more calling for nationalist sentiment. My chud brothers say shit like, “We need to secure resources for the people that contribute”. They think people walking across borders are polluting more than people flying in planes because, “Elon is trying to fix climate change”
Also once the effects get really bad they can accuse Democrats of trying to make us miserable during the final enjoyable days on Earth. We’ll let you have fun in these final moments while the Democrats will try to enslave you to sift through garbage heaps.
Edit: Actually, I was just looking into it, I think this claim is unsupported. Looks like climate change will cause a 5-25% less than what it would have been, but that’s as compared to the projected growth of yields due to improved technology and resources. So the picture is a little more muddy but still impactful.
Climate change isn’t really something you can deny anymore if you work in ag, and a lot of small-town conservatives have a close relationship to farming (not trying to stereotype, just speaking to my experience in Iowa). Yields have been declining basically every year for the last 10 or so, with wind, drought, and flooding being the top reasons. Temps in the central US reached the highest since the great depression and the dust bowl. For those people, denying the existence of climate change is basically saying you’ll do nothing to help farmers suffering from decreasing yields. It’s not a harmless “anti-woke” opinion anymore, it’s actively harmful to the material conditions of a lot of republicans.
That’s not to say it isn’t really interesting watching them dance around it. They’ll probably try to say, “yea, it’s real, but there’s no point in cutting back fossil fuels at this point. Here’s more farming subsidies to help with your decreasing yields”, and i’m betting that it will still be very effective for their base.-
Many Republicans actually believe a lot of stuff that’s true. They just tend to have One Big Issue that only the Republican candidate will support, usually something bigotry related, but for a few it’s HCGW related.
It’s been a mainstream talking point in conservative circles for a bit that climate change is real, but:
a) Us doing something won’t change anything until China and/or India also start doing something with us
b) If we started doing something, the cost would weaken us economically until China can overtake us and start influencing the world to the west’s detriment
Both of which are wrong, but it doesn’t stop conservatives from believing the talking heads. A lot of people can’t outright deny global warming anymore so they’re just shifting the blame now
You've got one on kbin too - @some_guy - a racist, bigoted fascist who likes to obsessively troll people and try to dox them.
It took me a moment to determine whether or not you were the same person, but unlike him, you can speak in complete sentences. As such, I thought I'd give you and @someguy3 a heads up that your good names are being dragged through the mud.
That sucks. Thanks for the heads-up. I’m getting the impression that kbin might be a haven for shitheads. Is this accurate? (Asking the room in general.)
Actually Kbin is great for tracking shitheads, which is why I'm able to call this guy out. Downvotes are visible on the activity tab of each post and comment, and this troll loves downvote spam - as you can see, he downvoted my comment above. He's the kind that will stalk your account and downvote everything to try and get your attention.
In general, 99.9% of the community here is awesome, and there's a lot of support between users here. It's actually the best experience I've had online in many years (and I've been online since the early 90s). One of my goals in calling out the trolls when they decide to target me is to keep the community enjoyable, as I'm quite certain I'm not their only intended victim.
Them having a platform is irrelevant. Trump is going to be the nominee, almost certainly even if he’s actually found guilty and ends up in prison (which I doubt will ever happen). This is all just a marketing exercise for the other candidates.
Also if they’re getting booed for denying climate change(?), then they’re better off just being silent on the campaign trail while continuing to support the oil sector once in office. Hell, they could even pivot to what the dems do by campaigning on it and doing nothing if their base starts to make it an issue.
That wouldn’t be a problem if so many far left people weren’t so insufferably woke. You can pretend it’s something made up by the right - but I’ve voted Labour all my life and I’m sick to death of wokeness.
You know sometimes when you meet a Christian person, and you only find it out later? But they were really respectful, down to earth, helpful and generally seems like a good person and member of their community? The kind off person that volunteers to drop of a second hand sofa in their station wagon?
And you know how sometimes you get Christians that are constantly trying to use their religion to imply moral superiority? Forcing other people to do what they want? Having shameful public displays? Trying to erode the rights of women and gays? Screeching Karens who seem totally disconnected from anything even slightly spiritual?
Woke people for me are more like the social justice equivalent of the second care category.
That wouldn’t be a problem if so many far left people weren’t so insufferably woke. You can pretend it’s something made up by the right - but I’ve voted Labour all my life and I’m sick to death of wokeness.
I wonder why so many trans people become communists when even the supporters of the left wing liberal parties openly oppose their existence 🤔
People who supper trans people 100% but yet think that self-id and trans people being in Ellen’s sports is problematic are being called “terfs” and “transphobes”
It’s just insanity.
People like you with absolutely no sense of perspective are doing more harm to trans people than anyone else.
I mean there you are, you’ve just proved my point for me.
You just want to score moral outrage points because you’re a narcissist.
Conversations with people like you are never productive because you are addicted to the outrage / moral reinforcement mechanism you’ve built for yourself.
Republicans tell their base that they want to cut government, but always act otherwise. Controlling government purse strings is political power and economic power. There may be shell games played that transfers spending, but Republicans do not cut government, nor their power.
They cut government, so that corporations can wield more control. Eliminate public schools over private. Deregulate so that corporations can pollute or scam as much as they want. Or just slash government to “prove” that government is worthless, so that they can slash government even more.
They don’t need government. They just need government to disappear. They believe in corporatocracy.
They have endless amounts of bigotry, and that is all that matters to their voters. They know they don’t need a platform and Trump made them realise that they don’t even need to pretend to have a platform anymore.
The Republicans don’t offer any solution for anything. It’s nothing but denialism and pandering. How could anyone have heard these idiots speak and think they have anything to offer us as President?
Outright climate denial, avoidance of actually engaging the question, and zero mention of any policy Republicans might advance on climate.
Democrats will admit that climate change is real but either do nothing to stop it or keep making things worse (with Biden signing more oil drilling permits than Trump because he is a puppet of the bourgeoisie, like every elected official in the country).
many of my conservative coworkers and family members genuinely believe there is some conspiracy led by George Soros et. al. to bring tons of brown people across our border to have “anchor babies” and further liberalize our country.
if that is what you believe, of course ending birthright citizenship sounds like a great solution
It’s easy to cast Kissinger as a master geostrategist, an expert player in the game of nations. But do the math. Hundreds of thousands of dead in Bangladesh, Cambodia, and East Timor, perhaps a million in total. Tens of thousands dead in Argentina’s Dirty War. Thousands killed and tens of thousands tortured by the Chilean military dictatorship, and a democracy destroyed. His hands are drenched in blood.
Kissinger is routinely lambasted by his critics as a “war criminal,” though has never been held accountable for his misdeeds. He has made millions as a consultant, author, and commentator in the decades since he left government. I once heard of a Manhattan cocktail reception where he scoffed at the “war criminal” label and referred to it almost as a badge of honor. (“Bill Clinton does not have the spine to be a war criminal,” he joshed.) Kissinger has expressed few, if any, regrets about the cruel and deadly results of his moves on the global chessboard. When Koppel gently nudged him about the secret bombing in Cambodia, Kissinger took enormous umbrage and shot back: “This program you’re doing because I’m going to be 100 years old. And you are picking a topic of something that happened 60 years ago? You have to know it was a necessary step.” As for those who still protest him for that and other acts, he huffed, “Now the younger generation feels if they can raise their emotions, they don’t have to think.”
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