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PseudoSpock , in A right-wing sheriffs group that challenges federal law is gaining acceptance around the country

ACAB

style99 , in NEWS: Patriot Front sues left-wing activist who infiltrated the hate group and named members
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The hypocrisy of these groups is showing:

The suit claims Capito joined Patriot Front using a false identity and accessed the group's computer databases to access private information, which he then shared with friendly activists and hackers.

"This confidential information was then widely published and used to harass and threaten the Plaintiffs, with the aim, and result, of doxxing them and other Patriot Front members and causing them serious harm," the lawsuit says.

They do this sort of thing all the time to the trans community.

chaogomu ,

Right-wing mentality says that it's alright when they do something, but if you do it back to them, that's cheating and shouldn't be allowed. You know, spoiled 5-year-old shit.

Aesthesiaphilia ,

Which is why this makes me a bit uneasy

Sure, when it happens to Nazis, fuck em, they're scum

But like...I'll bet some of you reading are Communists. There's a lot of employers who would fire you for affiliating with communist groups. Or pro-union groups.

I don't like the precedent of ruining someone's life because it can easily be turned around on you.

anon6789 ,

When you take a job, you have a good idea of what behavior can get you fired. You can get fired most places just because. I think it’s good to make it clear joining a Nazi club is one of those behaviors that’s going to get you fired. All this pussyfooting is encouraging them from these nobodies so the way up to the last president.

Aesthesiaphilia ,

Okay but talking about a union is another type of behavior that can get you fired.

I'm just saying it's a can of worms and it will be difficult to draw the line at Nazis alone

anon6789 ,

I agree it’s wrong to fire people for organizing a union, but that line doesn’t exist to begin with. Companies can and will continue to do that. I don’t agree with it, but that’s the way it currently is. I’m not sure if it’s been established you’re not allowed to be a Nazi outside of your typical “behavior not becoming of an XYZcorp employee” that they can use to legally fire you for anything they’re want I’m just saying we should make it clear that this specific behavior, joining Nazi clubs, is clearly a valid offense.

Again, 100 percent in agreement with you, but it’s not such a slippery slope issue when employees were never anywhere near the top of that slope to begin with, so we may as well hammer it home when we’ve identified a specific legal but unacceptable behavior.

lowdownfool ,
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You open a can of maggots when you treat nazis with kid gloves. Personally, I don't care about the argument "oh it could happen to us if we're meanies to nazis!"

Kata1yst , in Discussion: Ginni Thomas "may have crossed the line"—Lawyers on fake electors plot
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It's amazing to witness how distant and thin the line is for the wealthy and powerful.

dingus ,
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People think Elon Musk is an idiot (he is, but that’s beside the point I’m making) because he acts like the rules don’t apply to him.

The thing is, for the most part, they don’t. He breaks the law with abandon because he knows he can get away with it and what punishments that can and will be handed down to him will be so miniscule that he can hand-wave them away each time he’s faced with them.

In other words, part of the reason people like this are grand fucking idiots is because they’ve literally had no pushback, like ever, for their fucking chicanery.

What’s really funny is that you can actually replace the name “Elon Musk” in my first sentence with a litany of other names “Donald Trump,” “Rudy Giuliani,” and so on. There really is a whole swath of society who are the biggest fucking morons you will ever meet because they’ve been completely enabled by a system that refuses to punish them because they have money.

Dave Chapelle is now a rich piece of shit, too, but there was a point where it seemed like he understood this disparity in policing behavior. Considering this sketch was from around 2005, it’s kind of wild to see how things have only become worse and more brazen since then.

Arguably, the worse and more brazen issue is another nail in the coffin of “these motherfuckers are absolutely stupid as shit” because they think we can’t see through their charade and how much more out-in-the-open their corruption is now. They’re not even hiding it.

mPony ,

The "not hiding it" is a flex.
It's the "hey, look what I can do" playground mentality expressed by a hyper-rich hyper-powerful person. It's "grab the legal system by the pussy."

StarServal ,
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We need a Poor Nobody Black Man clause to the legal system. If we really want the legal/justice system to apply equally to everyone, then everyone’s identity should be obfuscated and presented as being a poor black man of no fame or renown.

It shouldn’t have to be this way, and it’s regrettable that people who naturally fall under one or more of those categories experience a different system than if not, but that’s exactly why it could be effective. It could either see the system changed to be less prejudiced, or it could see actual justice being done to those who deserve it most.

Or I’m just totally out of my mind and don’t realize it.

Unaware7013 ,

I'd rather see fines as a percentage of income. It would lessen the burden on the poor and actually give the wealthy meaningful consequences.

But I know that's literally the opposite of how the system is designed.

bedrooms ,

I'd say maintained.

be_excellent_to_each_other ,
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Dave Chapelle is now a rich piece of shit, too, but there was a point where it seemed like he understood this disparity in policing behavior. Considering this sketch was from around 2005, it’s kind of wild to see how things have only become worse and more brazen since then.

You'd be hard pressed to find a single episode of Chappelle's Show where he doesn't make direct or indirect reference to police brutality - back when I was young and dumb and unaware of my own privilege enough that I still thought it was a rarity and he was actually making jokes.

But despite his other recent controversies, I haven't heard anything whatsoever to make me think he's backpedaled on that topic. Has there been some event that I missed?

Javish , in MTG said she was 'uncomfortable' showing photos of Hunter Biden having sex but Americans 'deserve' to see them
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Hope she gets the appropriate charges pressed for this farce.

Arotrios , in Trump's unprecedented campaign pitch: Elect me to be your revenge on the government
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Boosted and upvoted for reprinting the text on the Fediverse.

I don't see this as being a winning tactic for Trump. He simply doesn't have the support from the power-brokers he did in 2016 - he's pissed off his wealthy donors and cost them too much money and power, both through grift and his glaring ineptitude in office. He will likely win the primary, but his chances in the general election are slim. He won't win the popular vote (again), and the electoral college landscape is less welcoming than it was seven years ago.

That being said, it's pretty clear that Trump realizes this. When you have both the institutions of the state and the financial backers in your party turn against you, no amount of populism can save you. He probably figures that he might as well go down "fighting the man", as it's unlikely at this point that surrender would provide him a better set of consequences than going out in a blaze of narcissistic glory.

This is where the real danger lies - after the election, when he's lost and has that brief moment as the dust settles before he's sent to jail, that's when he'll go nuclear, and you'll see him call not to "stand back and stand by", but to go to war.

Lemmylefty ,
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While I don’t believe we’re anywhere near out of this yet, I don’t think he’d be anything like 2016 Trump if he loses again. At that point he’s lost twice (unfortunately probably to Biden again) and his supporters are filled with rage and vengeance but they also want a winner.

It could certainly get scary in a “American Troubles” kind of way, but if he stays out of the White House, I see his followers peeling away to shack up with DeSantis and other, newer goons to get their authoritarian fix.

As for jail, I think it depends: if he’s convicted snd sent to federal jail while losing the election, I think Georgia’s state level charges have a 50-50 chance of extending that stay, since I doubt ye’d be jailed for life. If the federal conviction fails, the state charges are much more likely to get dropped.

Arotrios ,
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Agreed, unless something changes, I don't see his level of support increasing to a point where he'd actually be able to mobilize a force large enough to begin a true civil war on the occasion of his loss.

That being said, given the virulence and fanaticism of the extremists in his cohort, I can see him advocating violence to the point where domestic terrorism becomes a daily part of American life, much like mass shootings have.

I'm not so much worried about him winning as the damage he'll do when he loses.

Lemmylefty ,
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…can’t believe that I haven’t made this mental connection yet, but this was how the KKK came about: following a disastrous attempt at gaining power by violence from the duly elected by an increasingly radical segment, the losing party engages in acts of terrorism to try to bring the lesser-thans back into line by fear.

Arotrios ,
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Excellent point, and thanks for illustrating the historical precedent. Interestingly enough, it was Superman who eventually broke the Klan, and it looks like he's been gearing up to do again.

Here's hoping the next issue will have him fighting MAGATs.

jscummy , in PANIC: Florida takes huge economic hit as conventions reject anti-woke agenda

It’s not just the bigotry, I think we all know that corporations could easily get past that. He’s shown that his anti-LGBT agenda is absolutely the top priority, and is quickly turning into an anti-business agenda

wagesj45 ,
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And who wants to go to a convention somewhere that normal behavior could get you harassed by the police? Or that could limit your medical treatment if you were to have an emergency? If I were a woman (or gay, or trans, or even just not a "traditional" straight cis person), I would be scared to step foot in Florida even for a work conference.

Xeelee ,
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I'm neither of those but I would absolutely refuse to go to Florida for any reason whatsoever.

Drusas ,

Not to mention that trans people have no safe option for using public restrooms in Florida. They could get harassed or arrested for using the one that matches their birth sex (because they don't look like that sex anymore) and for using the one that matches their gender (because oh god penises).

snipgan , in The cringiest presidential campaign ad video you will ever see, courtesy of Ron DeSantis
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Not only on top of being homophobic/transphobic this is cringe as hell. Oh god, who is this for besides terminally online incels? I don’t see this helping sway the older demographic at all….

HandsHurtLoL ,

You nailed it. This is for the Andrew Tate stans of the internet.

They are measurably the most lonely people seeking a sense of community that is missing from their real lives. It makes them susceptible to radicalization, which is why they are so easily targeted with this kind of messaging of taking such immense pride in the depravity of inhumanness.

Hairyblue , in Biden Won't Pack the Supreme Court, and It's Killing Democracy
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Better title is Republicans are working to kill democracy by using corrupt right wing Supreme Court.
I agree Biden should pack the court to get average citizens to respect the Supreme Court again. Because the rulings the current court are making are not what the majority of us want.

Don't vote for Republicans, they don't care about our democracy.

scaredoftrumpwinning ,

In this climate I don’t see how Biden could pack the court. It would never clear the senate. Even though on paper Democrats are in control it is only on paper and not real life.

The rulings the court makes should be based on law not opinion, even if it is popular opinion. That being said accepting bribes from people that you are ruling on their cases and making rulings on made up stuff doesn’t really smell lawful. Those bribes would get anyone fired in corporate America but seems AOK for this banana court.

This court will go down in the history books (in some states, I’m sure FL won’t allow it) as the worst court session yet. Roberts will be known for a enabler of the illegitimacy of this court. Roberts response instead of leading is don’t say bad things about us you might hurt our feelings. He seems concerned about the image but isn’t doing a thing about it.

The best thing I can think of is vote out the party of hate, greed and power and see what we can do after the elections.

Hairyblue ,
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Biden was asked in the 2020 Primary about packing the court and he said "no". Unless I'm remembering this wrong and I don't think I am. And it looks like Biden will be our choice again for the election, so I don't see this changing, unless he says he NOW would pack the court.

I'm for packing the court. Only other way is impeachment.

QHC ,
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I would assume that Biden said that because he knows it is not practical and would be a waste of his limited time and political power.

Obama made a similar compromise in not pushing for single payer but instead focusing on the compromise that became the ACA. He used basically all of his first term to get that passed, and while it may not have gone far enough for a lot of progressives--including myself--I sure am glad we have that instead of nothing!

monkey_fish ,

And it has to clear the house as well which definitely won't happen before 2025. I wish people understood the current limitations of the presidency and paying laws in general.

holo_nexus ,
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Because the rulings the current court are making are not what the majority of us want.

The job of SCOTUS is not to rule based on what the “majority” of people want. It’s to check the constitutionality of the policies and laws passed by the other 2 branches.

Jaysyn ,
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They aren't doing that either. Just last week they released back to back completely contradictory rulings, one of them allowing businesses to use intrinsic characteristics to decide that they don't have to make a cake for you, but somehow, that's not ok when another business (colleges) does it.

They've decided that the pure fantasy of a religion is the most important characteristic a US citizen can possess.

Fuck impeachment, they are frauds & half of them should be incarcerated for taking bribes.

holo_nexus , (edited )
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To start, your confusing the cake case with the one from last week that had to do with a website for gay marriage (cake happened years ago). In both, they ruled that the 1st amendment rights of free expression and freedom of religion supersedes state nondiscriminatory laws.

For the record, I’m completely opposed to the rulings. But what you claim to be “pure fantasy of religion” is not something a large portion of the population would not agree with as they believe is some sort of faith, and the right to believe that faith is something that is protected by our 1st amendment whether you like it or not. I mean, it’s something that makes our country great is it not?

In regards to affirmative action, it was bound to be overturned due to its own discriminatory nature. Are there massive discrepancies in access to quality education, funding, wealth, and opportunities on a socio-economic and racial basis that is widespread all throughout society? Of course! But affirmative action is NOT the answer or solution to this, again due to its own discriminatory nature (and therefore, unconstitutional).

The whole bribery thing with Roberts and Thomas is a separate issue, and there needs to be severe consequences for such actions. Does SCOTUS have massive problems currently? Yes! But the faster we realize that it was meant to be a non-partisan institution with the sole purpose of interpreting the constitution and not ruling based on what the majority of people want, the faster we’ll realize that the institution is currently broken and we need to be very careful with what solutions are implemented (and no, packing the court is not a solution. It’ll make the whole situation exponentially worse)

Nougat , in [News] House Judiciary Committee expected to launch inquiry into Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis

The committee is expected to ask Willis whether she was coordinating with the Justice Department, ...

And they're going to try and color a totally normal thing to do as somehow nefarious.

Jeff , in [News] Federal appeals court rules Kentucky can force trans kids to detransition

Wait I’m confused. When Covid shots were a school requirement we heard it was parents choice and now with this … not parents choice.

Oh yeah GOP. Party of hypocrisy and hate. Why do they breathe.

binaryphile , in Trump Promotes Threatening Video: 'We Are Going to Do Things to You That Have Never Been Done Before'

I'm of the opinion that any rapist should have that permanently affixed to their name whenever mentioned: "Rapist Donald Trump".

apis ,

Mrrrm, I think we’ve all felt this or similar sentiments about many categories of convict, and especially those guilty of violent crimes, but I don’t have enough faith in the system to back the idea of a label in perpetuity by default. We can look into each other’s backgrounds if we’re so inclined, but otherwise I’d prefer for convicted offenders who have served their sentence to feel they can be contributors to society, and not to remain mired in the anti-social, dangerous paradigm from whence their bad behaviour emerged. These aren’t people who set out with a sense of boundaries or harm or why it is bad to rape. If we can’t stop them before the fact, we have a duty to encourage them to learn these things after the fact.

Flaky_Fish69 ,
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Maybe tattoo it on his forehead. “Rapist Donald Chump”

AmberPrince , in ‘This is a death sentence for me’: Florida Republican women say they will switch parties after DeSantis approves alimony law
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So I don't really know how to feel about this.

Permanent alimony seems silly to me. If I'm married for 10 years and get a divorce, why should I have to pay alimony for the next 40+ years?

I'm not opposed to alimony though. My in-laws just got divorced. They were married for like 20 years and during that time my father in law owned a business and wanted his wife to stay at home and take care of the house, kids etc. Now that they are divorced she has no career or equity and is in her 50s so starting one from nothing is a huge challenge. So there are fringe cases out there where it makes sense.

I don't know. I don't like DeSantis so as a reaction I want to be like "this is a dumb thing to do" but I just don't know.

LeafyPasserine ,
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According to the article, permanent alimony is granted only if the receiver agrees to give up other assets in exchange. So it's more of a trade.

JasSmith ,

So in effect this change means that trade will no longer be possible. At least not to the same degree. Everyone splits everything equitably and goes their separate way, plus some alimony but not lifetime. Seems reasonable to me.

AngrilyEatingMuffins ,

At what point are you imagining this 60 year old woman with no work experience is going to be able to support herself?

JasSmith ,

Well at 60, she and her husband have been saving for their retirement for 40 years already, so she’ll use that to retire early. Plus she’ll have at least half of all other assets too. Probably more if she’s disabled as in your example and unable to work at all.

Or do you believe that the husband should be unable to retire to find her lifestyle in perpetuity?

Guadin ,
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Wow, than the receiving party must had one hell of a squeeze on the giving party. If you are willing to pay for the rest of your life for some asset...

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  • blanketswithsmallpox ,
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    I hate how our society has devolved into "team blue" vs "team red" mentality. I hate both extremes equally and prefer to vote based on policy.

    A broken clock being right twice a day still means you shouldn't be using the clock to tell time lol.

    Even when it does happen to be right... You should be taking it with a huuuuuuge... Huuuuuuuuuuge grain of salt and probably look for another clock lol.

    It wasn't right through logic. It was right because of luck and entropy lol.

    CoWizard , in New, Conservative Push To Weaken Child Labor Protections Is Gaining Steam

    So if these kids can work, they can vote, right?

    CoCoIchibanCurry ,
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    Another core Republican policy is increasing the minimum voting age to 25.

    TubeTalkerX ,

    Something about Taxation without Representation…

    smokinjoe , in New, Conservative Push To Weaken Child Labor Protections Is Gaining Steam
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    There's a shocking amount of money in the orphan crushing machine

    Kerrigor ,
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    If you crush them hard enough you get diamonds!

    reflex ,
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    If you crush them hard enough you get diamonds!

    David CopperDiamondfield.

    Flaky_Fish69 ,
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    soylent greed....

    PugJesus , in [News] Senator Calls For Return of Old Mississippi Flag: ‘Our People Died Under That Flag’
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    Do it again, General Sherman.

    Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
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    Uncle Billy should have turned westward when he reached the sea and not stopped until he got to Mexico

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