Hypersapien ,

The Lower Decks crossover is bad enough, but this? No, just… no.

doleo ,

Wasn't this supposed to be the spin off that took us back to star trek? After Dystopian trek and Geriatric Trek, we saw a little bit in season 1 of star treking.

This season, we're going to have had: Spock's comedy capers, a crossover with family guy and a high-school musical one-off.

We've gone from alien of the week to bad American TV genre of the week. Season finale is a mockumentary, The Office-syle, 4th wall breaking comedy. Cast members doing pieces to camera in fake interviews, Spock doing that look to the camera that whatever the attractive guy's name was did.

Lockely ,
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Yes, I too want the same old rehashes of 60s and 90s Trek plots so we can have full series burnout in record time.

Star Trek is a place to tell stories. Some of those stories involve weird shit. “Weird,” as Janeway says to Kim after he comes from a cloned version of the ship where everyone he knows and loves just died in a self-destruct explosion, “is part of the job.”

doleo ,

So the only options are: rehash old Trek plots or rehash wacky American TV tropes?

Has chatGPT really run dry this quickly?

AngrilyEatingMuffins ,

Spock’s comedy capers was tonally different from data’s day… how?

You’re acting like goofy shit is not an intrinsic part of trek’s charm

michaelgemar ,
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@doleo TOS had a gangsters comedic episode, and a cutesy animals comedic episode.

Maestro ,
@Maestro@kbin.social avatar

And Tribbles!

Poggervania ,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

Are you forgetting you're talking about the series where:

  • Humpback whales were a central plot point in one of the movies
  • Dr. Crusher had a sexual relationship with a ghost
  • Paris and Janeway were mutated into lizards, had sex with each other, and gave birth to babies
  • It's canonical that people need to clean up the bio-filters for holodecks (leave that one to the imagination)
  • Data, a robot, manages to get laid a couple of times
  • Q's method of testing humanity is basically trolling the entire TNG crew every single time he appears
  • SNW had a literal fantasy episode in S1
  • Fucking James Moriarty from Sherlock Holmes was a recurring villain in TNG enough times to show up in Picard

Like... my guy, Stark Trek has always had an element of camp and being a goofy-ass series. It has a lot of thoughtful and contemporary dialogue in a lot of the episodes, yes, but you can't say stuff like the SNWxLD crossover (which, as somebody who has never watched LD and grew up with TNG & DS9, I thought was pretty good) and the next couple of episodes are straying from Star Trek as a whole. Why do you think a lot of Trek fans would consider GalaxyQuest as an honorable Star Trek film?

ki77erb ,

For real! Like, how can you be a Trek fan and not like SNW?? It’s fantastic!

valen ,
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When Galaxy Quest came out, Wil Wheaton called Patrick Stewart and told him to go to the theater and see “the best Star Trek movie ever made.”

NuPNuA ,

Personally, I think SNW doing all this stuff is more Trek than we’ve seen in a while. Most inventive and creative live action series since Enterprise ended.

ValueSubtracted OP Mod ,
@ValueSubtracted@startrek.website avatar

Pelia had better sing.

Prouvaire ,

For those who don't know, Carol Kane (though not particularly known as a singer) has sung on Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and has appeared in the US tour of the musical Wicked as Madame Morrible.

hivemind ,

Trek has a very, very long history of having weird shit happen to the crew because of space anomalies–

Once More With Feeling was in 2001, and Trek trying to follow in BTVS’s wake would have felt derivative at the time. The closest it came was The Doctor’s hallucinations… and that was hilarious.

If anyone can pull this off its the SNW crew.

Prouvaire ,

The retro poster has a Once More With Feeling vibe. Hoping Subspace Rhapsody will approach (or even meet) the standard that Buffy set as far as TV show musical episodes go.

oocdc2 ,

I was soooo skeptical when they advertised this Buffy episode first-run (yes, I'm old), but it was so well done and moving! I'm hoping SNW can also pull it off.

Hypersapien ,

There was also a musical episode of Xena. I forget which came first.

StillPaisleyCat ,
@StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website avatar

If the audience can roll with the Naked Time and the Naked Now, why not an ‘everyone breaks into song and dance’ episode?

CarlsIII ,

I feel like this has happened before, but maybe I’m just remembering The Doctor singing about Tuvok going into pon farr

Prouvaire ,

That was Picardo singing a parody of "La Donna e Mobile", an aria in Verdi's opera Rigoletto.

DS9 also had some episodes where they showed off their cast's vocal chops, eg Avergy Brooks and James Darren singing "The Best is Yet to Come" and Nana Visitor singing "Fever".

CarlsIII ,

Don’t forget everyone’s favorite, allamaraine!

Prouvaire ,
StillPaisleyCat ,
@StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website avatar

That will be coming in Lower Decks apparently.

UESPA_Sputnik ,
@UESPA_Sputnik@lemmy.world avatar

This will either be really fun or total nonsense. I like that they’re trying new things instead of only recycling old Trek tropes with aliens that have a different kind of bump on the forehead.

darth_helmet ,

I think the word you’re looking for is “and.”

Nadalofsoccer ,

I had hope for this series, s01 was ok. Can’t watch it now.

Son_of_dad ,

Noooooo. I despise musicals and hate it when the shows I like do one, I guess I can skip this episode

Piecemakers3Dprints ,
@Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world avatar

Hell, you could even skip commenting. 🤣

HR_Pufnstuf ,

I love musicals, but not on my TV shows.

lxskllr ,
@lxskllr@mastodon.world avatar

@ValueSubtracted

We'll see... Can't say I'm stoked, but maybe it'll be better than I anticipate. I'm not really a fan of musicals in the first place. I could count the ones I find 'acceptable' on one hand, and can only think of two atm. If it turns out merely 'acceptable' I'll be happy enough. Hopefully the actors had fun.

G59 ,

Umm… what. Is there an overlap between Star Trek fans and musical episode fans that I didn’t know about? 😅

ValueSubtracted OP Mod ,
@ValueSubtracted@startrek.website avatar

YES

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

Computer, play Nightbird.

michaelmelanson ,

Hi, I didn’t know it until I heard about this episode but apparently I’m that overlap.

NuPNuA ,

I’m actually not a huge musical fan, but I do enjoy it when it’s worked into something I already enjoy like Trek, as long as the song writing is good, I’m hyped.

Thteven ,
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GeekFTW ,
@GeekFTW@kbin.social avatar

Oh My.

SteefLem ,
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Ugh… why…!! Lets sing about this monster that eats children and farts fire lalalala. Ugh…

The show is good why fuck it up

Prouvaire ,

You obviously feel very strongly about this.

Have you considered bursting into song to give your feelings full expression?

Little8Lost ,

i dont watch the trailer for, i hope, obvious reasons but i am hyped for the series in general so i want to see how this turns out ^^

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