Came across this article, and it’s a very interesting take on how Star Trek has changed with the times, and how modern audiences seem to have a harder time trusting institutions or imagining Trek’s utopia.
It’s always been both, just with our current problems offloaded to aliens for scrutinization. That they’re no longer using aliens for commentary is the problem.
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Something I would have liked to have seen is Vidiians being assimilated by choice on the basis that being part of the Collective had to be better than suffering from the Phage. Instead of them just being enemies, they should have really leaned into how horrible it would be to live with that plague hanging over their heads. It’s also implied in an episode or two that there are uninfected populations somewhere, probably under quarantine, which would have been interesting to explore.
There are actually differences in the Prime and Kelvin timelines that happened before Nero’s incursion. For instance, Kirk’s date of birth is off by several months. They tried to justify that afterwards by saying something about the event sending shockwaves through time to change things before it even happened or something like that. The real reason probably lies in that interview where JJ Abrams admitted he never liked Star Trek, but you could argue that the removal of various down-stream time travel events, like the events of “The City on the Edge of Forever” likely not happening in the modified timeline, could actually cause retroactive changes to the timeline.
But anyway, the Kelvin timeline already diverges before the Kelvin-Narada thing, because reasons.
I have mixed feelings about Disco ending. I really dug the first season’s look at a Federation at war, and following the person who arguably set that war in motion dealing with her culpability. Add to that a ship that is part weird science lab, part haunted house. And yeah, I could live with the Klingon redesign....
That’s not new. Turbolifts on the Discovery were depicted that way pre-refit, back in the TOS-ish era. It’s a (mind-boggling) stylistic choice or something.
DS9 is a Bajoran station, not a Federation one. The Bajoran economy is not post-scarcity and still runs on money. Either Starfleet officers get a stipend to purchase things when posted on such assignments, or Quark simply bills Starfleet. Either way, Starfleet/the UFP likely has a reserve of latinum and other resources for trade with other nations.
and they certainly treated specific items as “valuable” (historical items, weapons, and especially liquor.)
Historical items definitely have non-monetary value. They can’t truly be replaced since, no matter how accurate the replica, only the one chair will be the Enterprise-A’s captain’s chair, for example. Replicators have software restrictions on what you can make with them, so you can’t just replicate weapons under normal circumstances, which creates scarcity and gives them value. Starfleet replicators also seem to be restricted from creating alcohol, which means most of the characters we see can only get it on shore leave, which also creates scarcity and therefor value. Alcohol is probably significantly less scarce when sourced through civilian replicators. The ones on DS9 are programmed with Starfleet’s restrictions, though.
Of course the real-world reason is that it’s cheaper to shake the camera and set off a firecracker than to build a scale model just to paint a burn scar on the side....
If it was mentioned, it was probably in ENT. They talked a lot more about grav plating in that show than any of the others, probably more than all of them combined.
I don’t know whether this is an unpopular opinion or not but I actually think that the way Tasha Yar died gave the show much higher stakes throughout it’s entire run. Here is the chief security officer, main bridge crew, tragic back story, potential love interest for the robot character just slapped down by the monster of...
They didn’t want to fire her, but she did want to quit. She wasn’t happy with the direction they were taking her character. I wouldn’t be surprised if she also had issues with the same guy McFadden did. Jadzia was killed off because Berman wouldn’t let Farrell switch to being a recurring rather than a regular, which may be what you’re thinking of.
My friends and I recently challenged each other to list our top five starship classes and were surprised by how different our opinions were despite being generally in agreement with what we like about the various series....
The Excelsior-class is one of my favorites. A bit wonky from a top-down view, but gorgeous from every other angle.
The Sovereign-class continues the general aesthetic of the Excelsior, but for the TNG-era design style and fixing the problem with high angle views.
The Valdore-type warbird from Nemesis is probably the best thing about that movie.
The Klingon D4 from Into Darkness is similarly one of the better things from that movie.
The NX-class Refit is also just shockingly pretty. Makes the original look incomplete.
Not canon, but I love the original “Long-boi” Discovery design. It gives off some very cool art-deco retro-futurism vibes. Not very classically “trek” but I love it nonetheless!
That is the canon design for the Discovery before the far future refit it got.
Something to consider with those two images is that they’re different angles. Your first image is of the underside of the ship, while the second is the top of the ship.
Also, the texturing and nacelles are different between the two, but the body and saucer seem to be structurally the same. Still a long-boi even with the slightly shorter nacelles.
I’ve never seen Star Trek TOS so I don’t know for sure if this is explained anywhere. Does anyone know why they made the switch from red shirts to yellow shirts between commanding officers and security between TOS and TNG?
I’ve heard that Data was originally going to be a science officer and the blue uniform didn’t work with his makeup, but I don’t know whether or not it was true.
I’m pretty sure he was also the only command division officer on the bridge after they gave him command. At least in theory, due to differences in training, a lieutenant jg from the command track may be better suited for acting captaincy than a full lieutenant from science, especially with a decidedly non-sciency mission like flinging a warship at a wall. You need that dash of crazy that Starfleet’s command officers tend to have.
I always headcanoned that Rom was very quickly fired after DS9…
As Grand Nagus, I don’t think there’s anyone higher up to fire him. The position is a weird cross of king, CEO, and Pope. Only death or resignation seems to be able to oust a Grand Nagus.
Captain Freeman referenced it destroying the Orion ship in the intro, so it’s making its way toward the plot. Or the Cerritos is making its way to the plot.
Hmm, I can recognize Klingon and tengwar, but not the others. I can still read Daedric from when I played Morrowind all the time, but it takes me a while to remember what the individual glyphs mean.
They floated it a little with Rutherford in the first episode or two with his Vulcan implant randomly making him act Vulcan, but it was dropped almost immediately.
My partner is into DS9 and suggested we watch some last night. For some reason episode 1 was not available on Amazon Prime.(?) We watched Past Prologue and A Man Alone. As someone who is only barely familiar with the Star Trek universe, here are my thoughts:...
Bashir definitely gets better. There are a few episodes that recontextualize his character and each one makes him come across much better. He also just grows a lot.
I think what makes DS9 work is its core premise, and the problem with some of the newer stuff is they’re trying for that tone without that premise to back it up. As Sisko says early on, it’s easy to be a saint in paradise, but DS9 isn’t paradise; they’re at a backwater that’s been ravaged by decades of military occupation and is struggling to get by. On Earth, people can just replicate whatever they need for free, but Bajor doesn’t have a post-scarcity economy and they often need to make hard choices. Half the crew also isn’t from the Federation and doesn’t have that strong sense of morality ingrained in them from birth.
If Tasha Yar stayed on the show, what do you think would have happened? How would she have been written?
The show really started to hit its stride S3 and everyone was written differently.
Are We All Too Cynical for Star Trek? ( plus.thebulwark.com )
Came across this article, and it’s a very interesting take on how Star Trek has changed with the times, and how modern audiences seem to have a harder time trusting institutions or imagining Trek’s utopia.
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Star Trek History: Bride of Chaotica! ( www.startrek.com )
Janeway’s “Tuvix” Decision Divides ‘Star Trek: Voyager’ Cast: “It Kind Of Hurt Her Character” ( trekmovie.com )
got this on 21st december in my advent calendar ( lemmy.world )
this was in my advent calendar (16th-18th dec) ( lemmy.world )
got ds9 on the 15th of december ( lemmy.world )
On the end of Discovery
I have mixed feelings about Disco ending. I really dug the first season’s look at a Federation at war, and following the person who arguably set that war in motion dealing with her culpability. Add to that a ship that is part weird science lab, part haunted house. And yeah, I could live with the Klingon redesign....
there were two things in my advent calendar today ( lemmy.world )
How did money work on deep space 9?
Whenever there’s a storyline with quark, they talk about money/latinum....
Possible headcanon reason why consoles always explode on the bridge
Of course the real-world reason is that it’s cheaper to shake the camera and set off a firecracker than to build a scale model just to paint a burn scar on the side....
In a way, Tasha Yar's fate actually worked out really well for the series
I don’t know whether this is an unpopular opinion or not but I actually think that the way Tasha Yar died gave the show much higher stakes throughout it’s entire run. Here is the chief security officer, main bridge crew, tragic back story, potential love interest for the robot character just slapped down by the monster of...
Happy Birthday Terry Farrell ( i.imgur.com )
To the Trill with the license to thrill, happy 60th birthday!
Jonathan Frakes Returning To Direct For ‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Season 3 ( trekmovie.com )
Let's talk starship classes!
My friends and I recently challenged each other to list our top five starship classes and were surprised by how different our opinions were despite being generally in agreement with what we like about the various series....
Question about "redshirts" ( izzydata.xyz )
I’ve never seen Star Trek TOS so I don’t know for sure if this is explained anywhere. Does anyone know why they made the switch from red shirts to yellow shirts between commanding officers and security between TOS and TNG?
Are Romulans just Vulcans with emotions?
Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Lower Decks | 4x10 "Old Friends, New Planets"
LoglineTop Secret, again. Edit: well, this was certainly worth waiting for: Mariner faces her past in the season four finale....
A touching quote from Nimoy's "I am Spock" book (1995) ( startrek.website )
If you could have either a holodeck or a replicator, which one would you pick?
God damn it! I hate this season ending cliff hanger! ( lemmy.ml )
So, do humans stink? ( lemmy.ml )
Was WW3 the same as the Eugenics wars or were those 2 separate ones? Also, does anyone have the chronology of all wars that have happened in Star Trek?
Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Lower Decks | 4x07 "A Few Badgeys More"
LoglineThree computerized villains return to cause problems for the Cerritos crew....
The most heart warming moment on Prodigy ( lemmy.ml )
Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Lower Decks | 4x06 "Parth Ferengi's Heart Place"
LoglineThe Cerritos visits the Ferengi homeworld....
Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Lower Decks | 4x05 “Empathalogical Fallacies”
LoglineA trio of Betazoids cause chaos on the Cerritos....
Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Lower Decks | 4x04 "Something Borrowed, Something Green"
LoglineTendi is summoned back to Orion for a wedding....
Finally some decent ad copy! ( startrek.website )
Stumbled over this in Gothenburg, Sweden. Made my day.
Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Lower Decks | 4x03 "In the Cradle of Vexilon”
LoglineBoimler leads his first away mission on an alien megastructure....
Star Trek and ... Kid Cudi? ( www.startrek.com )
Watched episodes 2&3 of DS9, thoughts
My partner is into DS9 and suggested we watch some last night. For some reason episode 1 was not available on Amazon Prime.(?) We watched Past Prologue and A Man Alone. As someone who is only barely familiar with the Star Trek universe, here are my thoughts:...