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Snapz , to Work Reform in The 4-day workweek was a longshot. The UAW isn’t giving up

This guy walking into presidential aspirations?

llama , to Work Reform in The 4-day workweek was a longshot. The UAW isn’t giving up
@llama@midwest.social avatar

If the conditions are still the same that cause people to want to ask for a 4 day work week, then people will keep asking!

Shadywack , to Work Reform in The 4-day workweek was a longshot. The UAW isn’t giving up
@Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

Being stuck on a 40 hour work week, but just doing four tens, I can say the 32 hour concept needs to continue having traction. More and more people are waking up to the reality that work is just work. There’s life to live and we have the means nationally to allow for a meaningful life. When considering employment, only getting two days off is a dealbreaker.

WarmSoda ,

I agree. I won’t do four ten hour shifts. You’re just adding two more soul crushing hours to your day.

toynbee ,

But removing one entire soul crushing day from your week, allowing you to sleep in, do chores or errands, go somewhere fun, whatever you want. You are less free to do those things with the two extra hours per day because the two hours are probably before or after when many places are open, plus you and any compatriots with whom you might want to associate are more likely to be tired from work. (I’m speaking of a hypothetical “you,” not necessarily you personally, of course.)

I certainly think 4x8 should be implemented as the standard, but until that happens, I consider 4x10 to be far, far preferable to 5x8, especially if you get to choose your day off. I’ve mostly worked 4x10 for many years and the few times I’ve had to switch back to 5x8 have been soul crushing due to how much opportunity and “me time” I’ve lost.

I didn’t know I wanted it until the first job that offered it, but now it’s a requirement I’ll mention the first time I speak to any recruiter.

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  • Shadywack ,
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    This right here, I get the bulk of my responsibility completed in about 20 hours, where the rest of the time my particular role is that I’m compensated for “being available”. As for completion of my duties and helping the mission of the company is concerned, 32 hours for the same pay would actually save the company money. The “optics” though is what companies fear, and they don’t want to lose their leverage and power over workers.

    agent_flounder ,
    @agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

    Agreed. Sure it is nice getting 3 day weekends but I am not cut out for 10h days. I just cannot be productive that long.

    I’m glad that younger generations are more about work to live instead of pointless live to work bullshit. I saw my mom fall into that trap. Not worth it.

    I don’t even hate my job. I like it. But I have way too many other things I could do with my time and life is fucking short. Going above and beyond so some rich douchebags can get more rich? Kinda low on the priority list.

    What’s the point if you work until you die or even if you retire at 60-something and only get a few years to enjoy the free time before you’re too sick or dead? Saw my mom do that too. No thanks.

    Let me know when I can join a union. All of us ought to link up and fight for a 4 day, 32 hr work week and enough money and benefits to retire at a younger age.

    Zaktor ,

    Sure it is nice getting 3 day weekends but I am not cut out for 10h days. I just cannot be productive that long.

    There’s a strong argument that people also can’t be productive for 5x8h days. Cases of the Mondays, Friday afternoons, just staring at the wall. I think a fundamental aspect of the standard workweek is a lot of employees are sometimes just at work without actually being productive. That’s why some studies find no reduction in productivity when people go 4x8.

    Shadywack ,
    @Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

    I’d be happy if I could just retire on time, which I don’t think is going to happen. I look at many people and still feel lucky that I “only” have to work 40 hours. People are compelled to work 60+ just for their subsistence and even they won’t have enough to retire.

    reddig33 , to Work Reform in The 4-day workweek was a longshot. The UAW isn’t giving up

    Should be pushing for universal healthcare instead.

    Poggervania ,
    @Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

    Why not both?

    4-day work week means less stress and more time to rest and be healthy, and a NHS system would also be very good as well.

    RGB3x3 ,

    It’s way past time for both.

    rickdg , to Work Reform in The 4-day workweek was a longshot. The UAW isn’t giving up
    @rickdg@lemmy.world avatar

    Fight for a real 40 x 5 week first, otherwise it doesn’t matter.

    Rentlar ,

    Fighting for a 32h/4day work week is a great way to get a proper 40h/5day work week as a concession. But I’ve heard some union contracts get 72h/9 day fortnights (5-4-5-4) so that’s a promising sign.

    Omgarm ,

    I already have that though.

    hex_m_hell , to Work Reform in The 4-day workweek was a longshot. The UAW isn’t giving up

    Eliminate bullshit work and you’ll be down to a 15 hour work week.

    AnarchistsForDemocracy , to Work Reform in The 4-day workweek was a longshot. The UAW isn’t giving up
    @AnarchistsForDemocracy@lemmy.world avatar

    Who’s dreams are these? Nobody dreams of a 4 day work week,

    we all dream of a 2 hour workday.

    wishthane , to Work Reform in The 4-day workweek was a longshot. The UAW isn’t giving up

    You have to shoot big if you want to get anything close to what you want - it’s a basic principle of negotiation

    _number8_ , to Work Reform in The 4-day workweek was a longshot. The UAW isn’t giving up

    why the fuck is it a longshot? god forbid people have more time to themselves

    fubbernuckin ,

    Long shot because good luck convincing some big corporation you should have any time to yourself at all.

    uriel238 ,
    @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Because our industrialist masters think revolution is no longer an option.

    gregorum , to U.S. News in Senate aide out of job after purported sex tape apparently filmed in Senate hearing room | CNN Politics
    @gregorum@lemm.ee avatar

    How fucking dumb do you have to be?

    bermuda OP ,

    I know right?

    He then went on linkedin claiming it was all fake and that people were “attacking him for who he loved.” I’m sure some people were attacking him for being gay but I think most were attacking him for having sex in the senate hearing room.

    gregorum ,
    @gregorum@lemm.ee avatar

    It is nothing to do with him being gay. And it has everything to do with him filming himself having sex in a place where he shouldn’t be having sex, and then leaking it online. 

    I didn’t even know he was gay until you mentioned it just now. It absolutely does not matter who you were fucking. It’s that you were fucking, recorded it, and it leaked. Shame on you. 

    pbjamm ,
    @pbjamm@beehaw.org avatar

    Generally speaking having sex in your workplace is a bad idea*. Filming it, even worse. Doubly worse if that workplace is unique and identifiable. Triply worse if that place has security that tracks people access.

    *obviously not if you are in the business of sex.

    HalJor ,
    @HalJor@beehaw.org avatar

    I don’t think “love” describes what’s going on in the video.

    senseamidmadness ,

    That right there is the dumb part. He should’ve owned up to it.

    “Yes, I had killer sex in the Senate hearing room and all you senators are jealous you didn’t do it first.”

    millie ,

    For real, if he’d embraced getting caught and just owned it he might have traded up for a much more interesting career.

    rickdg , to Work Reform in The 4-day workweek was a longshot. The UAW isn’t giving up
    @rickdg@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean the issue being that people have 40 x 5 but still end up working more.

    Froyn , to Work Reform in The 4-day workweek was a longshot. The UAW isn’t giving up

    A hockey game is only played for an hour, yet each team has 5 lines.
    Auto plants run 24 hours and have 3 lines.

    books , to Work Reform in The 4-day workweek was a longshot. The UAW isn’t giving up

    This was the one I wanted to see most out of all their demands

    t3rmit3 , to U.S. News in Senate aide out of job after purported sex tape apparently filmed in Senate hearing room | CNN Politics

    Was it Cawthorn and his cousin-brother again?

    bermuda OP , to U.S. News in Senate aide out of job after purported sex tape apparently filmed in Senate hearing room | CNN Politics

    I don’t think I can post the video here but it’s floating around. Only 7 seconds long but yeah it is what it says on the tin. Sex tape in senate hearing room.

    bbbhltz ,
    @bbbhltz@beehaw.org avatar

    It might be politically incorrect to share it here, you’re right.

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