Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 2x07 "Those Old Scientists"

GaiusGornicusCaesar , 11 months ago (edited 11 months ago)

The episode was really good. I like the appearance of the Orion Scout Ship we see in “Journey to Babel”, one of my favorite ships. It may raise some slight continuity errors, but who cares. Nice ship, nice episode, nice show. Probably one of the best episodes of Trek I’ve seen.

theothersparrow , 11 months ago

An extremely fun episode.

One thing that jumped out at me was the adjectives used: “scientists, explorers, adventurers.” The episode reinforced what Starfleet as an organization and Trek as a concept are all about.

Captain_Ender , 11 months ago

Small note I LOVE that they're extending the "not all Orions are pirates" theme!!! LD did such a great job demystifying a race of people with Ensign Tendi and it only makes sense that their people have always been more than just a stereotype even during the TOS era. Was cool to see Boimler help change that perception with the Enterprise crew and confirmed when the Orion science captain saying "that's all we wanted" about being seen as explorers just like Star Fleet!

samus12345 , 11 months ago

Apparently their visit back in time was always baked into this timeline. Explains why Temporal Investigations didn’t get involved. Pretty cool that Tendi, through Boimler, had a hand in building the foundation for better relations between the Federation and Orions.

polymorphist_neuroid , 11 months ago

Yes! Boimler is a great example of an ally here - he tells Pike, who he spends all episode worshiping, directly and politely that his bias against Orions is wrong.

MaxHardwood , 11 months ago

I loved it. I was ready to be annoyed they didn’t do a LD animation style intro sequence but they nailed it; nacelle monster and all. Same for the ending; I was hopeful they would do the end scene LD style and again they just nailed it.

letThemPlay , 11 months ago (edited 11 months ago)

Absolutely loved this episode, Boimler getting wrapped in the cables when jerry-rigging the sensors had me in tears; and the Riker as he swung his leg over the saddle brilliant bit of improv made even funnier knowing Drakes directed this.

They managed to tone down the lower deckers slighter whilst still having their full personalities come through.

Pikes getting more exacerbated with them throughout the episode was well done, and the amount of physical comedy I’m running out of superlatives for this episode.

It was just brilliant, easily my favourite of the current era.

Edit. Just wanted to add, loved seeing the LD uniform in love action; thought it translated really well.

felixxx999 , 11 months ago

Fine Fine episode Why are my eyes so big?? The Stafleet logo on the soles of his shoes. Mariner doing her double thumbs up. Her rolled up sleeves being slightly lighter red.
Enterprise love! Why do they talk so loud? Lol. The OPENING CREDITS! With that sucking alien. Glad they didn’t have them retreat from danger.

polymorphist_neuroid , 11 months ago

I’m still giddy about this episode. Possibly the best thing I’ve ever seen.

One thing I noticed particularly in this episode is how respectful both SNW and LD are of canon and fandom in general - the bit about not all Orions being pirates, for example. I know it originates w/Tendi from Lower Decks, but just in the context of this episode they take the one-dimensional nature of the Orions from TOS, poke a little fun at it, but then make it about the bias that the Federation/Star Fleet has against a culture they really don’t understand. The SNW writers effortlessly take what could be considered a flaw or one-dimensional writing from TOS and actually use it to flesh out the ST universe, all while telling a great story.

HardlightCereal , 11 months ago

Some Orions haven’t been pirates for 5 years!

Hogger85b , 11 months ago

I wonder how many times crew get blackout/asleep and for a joke their mates put them in the holodeck for "computer end programme" to be a wake up meme.