Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Lower Decks | 4x01 "Twovix" and 4x02 "I Have No Bones Yet I Must Flee"

"Twovix" loglineThe Cerritos ensigns must assist a caretaker on the voyage of a historically significant starship.

Written by: Mike McMahan

Directed by: Barry J. Kelly & Jason Zurek

"I Have No Bones Yet I Must Flee" loglineMariner tries to get demoted, Rutherford tries to get promoted, and Boimler makes a big move.

Written by: Aaron Burdette

Directed by: Megan Lloyd

Stormygeddon ,

I thought it was fine. The ending of Rutherford’s B-plot felt a little cheap.

Plus with Luvik around, I’m wondering what happened with Jet and if there’s going to be a gang of bitter lower deckers who don’t quite like the main four.

JWBananas ,
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It reminds me of the episode where Rutherford tried out all those different jobs on the ship because he wanted to do something new. He was afraid to let them know he didn’t like the work, but every time, they were super supportive.

ShranTheWaterPoloFan ,

I love that episode.

And the moral of “I can get stuff just by asking for it!” Is a real lesson.

FordBeeblebrox ,

“I can get stuff I deserve just by asking for it?”

Yeah man, you did the work and saved the ship, ask for your damn pip and better quarters already!

eva_sieve ,

All our Wej Duj heroes came back for episode 1! …I hope Ma’ah’s okay.

It’s interesting how between Lower Decks and Prodigy (plus some brief mentions in other post-VOY shows) we have a decent picture of how the universe view now-Admiral Janeway. It’s clear she’s viewed with a sort of heroic reverence, Captain Freeman assumed that Janeway’s logs would have a good answer for a Tuvix situation. Voyager’s celebrity status has definitely inflated her image a little, really put’s Dal’s awkward first encounter with the real Janeway in perspective.

It feels very right that they didn’t actually dive into the morality of killing Tuvix other than “that’s messed up!” and making the Tuvix’d crew clearly in the wrong/not sapient before de-Tuvixing them. Lower Decks does earnest optimism about Starfleet well, but I don’t think deep dives into moral situations are something for a goofy 22 minute show.

williams_482 ,
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I’m honestly disappointed about the double release, because now I have to process two awesome episodes at the same time and I keep getting them mixed up.

Quick hitters, in no particular order:

  • love Ransom demonstrating competent personnel management, another “surprise” twist of stuff working as it should.
  • the Shax/Ransom exercise scene is fabulous
  • Did that macro virus really get stuck behind a panel on the bridge for a decade (ish), or did curator guy cook it up to enhance the exhibit?
  • the whole Tuvix sequence was the perfect absurdist sequel to the original episode. Apparently T’Lynn and all of the merged persons are also cold blooded murderers in their own special ways.
WellFedHobo ,

The intro now has the whale probe? man, that scene gets spicier every time the Cerritos nopes out.

nxdefiant ,

I’m almost certain it’s related to the ship revealed at the end/beginning of e2/e3

samus12345 ,
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Doubtful, since the opening ships have never figured into the actual episodes. But ya never know!

StillPaisleyCat ,
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The Pakleds got added after becoming the big bad one season. So, hard to say.

samus12345 ,
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True, after being introduced.

JWBananas ,
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Wtf was that thing? It looked familiar.

ShranTheWaterPoloFan ,

It reminds me of the future Borg from Voyager.

RootBeerGuy ,
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Assimilated salamander robot is my new favourite villain. That said, why did the exhibit not display their children?

DharmaCurious ,
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Because they’re grown now, and have asked star fleet not to use their image in any promotional material. They’re still salty about being abandoned.

JWBananas ,
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Starfleet are not YouTube influencers. The children have the right to privacy.

khaosworks ,
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Now I want to know how T’Lyn knows what Borg smell like.

milkisklim ,

I’m sure there’s reports. And as a Vulcan lady with superior olfactory senses, it is only logical to become aware of what smells may occur.

khaosworks ,
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Annotations on both episodes are up at startrek.website/post/1491160 and startrek.website/post/1493824

Magnetar ,

I feel like they wouldn’t make a display of the salamanders, as long as Janeway has access to weaponry.

JWBananas ,
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She nonchalantly told a bunch of kids about it in Prodigy. Or was that Holo Janeway?

CindyLouWho2 ,
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It was the Admiral.

I have a feeling that someday, we’re going to find out what happened to the children.

lwaxana_katana ,

These episodes were both great. I have shipped Mariner/Ransom since s1 and, well, honestly, this new dynamic of theirs probably makes it even less likely than it ever was lol. But they were fun episodes. I do wish Lower Decks had more episodes, since they’re only 20 min/ea.

Wooster ,
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The DS9 episode was handled with such dignity, but the Voyager episode was a fever dream and I am absolutely here for it!

After 3 seasons, it’s surprising to finally have a voice actor for Westlake.

I didn’t know I needed Clarinet Macro Viruses and assimilated Salamander Automatons at the helm, but my gosh did the LD team deliver!

I wonder if the promotion rollout explains why marketing for this season was so sparse.

I LOVED Shaxs talking about his relationship issues with Ransom and the fourth wall lean on the tubes was perfection.

lwaxana_katana ,

Omg yes! That scene was so good. I feel like Gates McFadden and Marina Sirtis would have enjoyed it most of all lol.

eva_sieve ,

They’ve definitely edited some of the rank pips in trailer shots we haven’t seen yet (and some we have). Might explain why T’lyn is rocking a standard ensign pip a bit into the first trailer.

leviathan3k ,

…moopsy

Wooster ,
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The cutest Metroid ever!

Maolmi ,
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samus12345 ,
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I’m Mr. Frundles!

ThrowawayInTheYear23 ,

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LibraryLass ,

…Moopsy!..

e_t_ Admin , (edited )

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