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boredsquirrel OP ,

What

boredsquirrel OP ,

Thanks a lot, I will fix them!

So even though they are placed in /etc/systemd/user every user can enable and disable them? This sounds like a good option for many services.

Do you know if it is possible to for example place them in /etc/systemd/user/kde/ to have them grouped better?

boredsquirrel OP ,

Thanks!

I am still a bit confused about systemd services, timers, units, targets and whatever but slowly getting there.

Also do you know how dbus activation would make sense, if it is already used in some ways and if it should be?

I think nearly all these services should run as user ones. I will fix their Wants entry and try to enable them again. Then see if some are dependencies of others, and the other way around on what they depend (like graphical.target, network-online.target, network.target etc).

Also I feel something with accessibility can be improved here, as orca and kaccess may be invoked intelligently (and otherwise dont bother users).

boredsquirrel OP ,

Something ChatGPT gave me

Requires vs Wants:

  • Requires: If a unit "requires" another unit, it means that the former cannot function properly without the latter being active. If the required unit fails, the dependent unit will also fail.
  • Wants: As mentioned earlier, "wants" implies a weaker dependency. If a unit wants another unit, it will start if the wanted unit is activated, but it won't fail if the wanted unit fails.

Sounds like most of the services actually have Requires and not Wants.

So Wants is more used to indicate in what "wave" a service should run. Quite nice!

boredsquirrel OP ,

I am currently experimenting with this. I dont know what the best solution is. I will add a new post about this in KDE Discuss and Lemmy.

  • system or user services?
  • common directory?
  • order of launch
  • what are the dependencies and what depends on them

It is pretty crazy that entire KDE Plasma doesnt use systemd, and I can now (after looking through /etc/xdg/autostart add geoclue, baloo and orca to the possibly unwanted processes).

boredsquirrel OP ,

Can you explain how systemd relaunches it?

I want to test converting some noncritical but annoying services to systemd services. Then I will experiment with changing all to systemd services in a VM.

But if there is some strange systemd action in there that relaunches things, this needs to be adapted too.

boredsquirrel OP ,

This will for sure come up when making something compatible with only systemd.

Even though this should also be very possible to implement in sysvinit etc.

boredsquirrel OP ,

Yes I also heard that.

boredsquirrel OP ,

I have tons of issues on Plasma 6 with the whole thing, several bugs reported. Compared to something like cosmic panel widgets, or GNOME or anything else it just seems overcomplex and fragile. I can also imagine this results in lag and performance issues, but idk.

I mainly use an 11th gen i7 laptop :D

boredsquirrel OP ,

Nice!

boredsquirrel OP ,

True. But that old laptop has a 1,8TB HDD (no idea that was a thing back then) and is not really used anymore

boredsquirrel OP ,

Interesting. SSD is not an option as this is not really used and has a huge 1,8TB HDD.

And it runs very fine for its job.

I wish plasma had a "energy saving mode" where all this fancy stuff is disabled. Transparency, blur, animations etc.

boredsquirrel OP ,

Hahaha no way I will overcomplicate this random old laptop. It is also not in my home but my families.

But it does have 2 drives and replacing the main small one with the OS on it would already improve things a lot.

boredsquirrel OP ,

I have a Clevo NV41 which is hillariously easy to disassemble. Worlds bettet than my Thinkpad T430 or the better T495. Not as modular though.

boredsquirrel OP ,

I know. But as you said it is rather tedious.

Is there a CLI interface for these settings like gsettings on GNOME?

boredsquirrel OP ,

Okay that doesnt matter XD

optimization for new Hardware is also important but very different from low spec compatibility.

11th Gen Intel is x86_64-v4

And you know what discussion came up when Ubuntu wanted to switch to v3 (my 2012 Thinkpad has v3)?

boredsquirrel OP ,

You cannot disable animations right? Setting the speed to max seems equivalent, but do you know if it actually turns something off?

boredsquirrel OP ,

Plasma is quite a bit more resource efficient than Win11, but yes Win10 is likely pretty similar.

I somehow can just feel the bulk, it somehow feels heavy. The panel and desktop are so modular and just feel bloated and messy.

boredsquirrel OP ,

Nice, thanks!

boredsquirrel ,

Under systemsettings there are multiple variants for task switcher.

Can you explain what Windows does different? Its not like everyone here uses Windows XD

boredsquirrel ,

I really need to try the KDE remote desktop solutions but the need for IP addresses was always a problem.

boredsquirrel ,

Having only small experience with this I already know how painful it is to have PRs simply not merged forever.

boredsquirrel ,

I agree app indicators are a very strange concept, but the alternative is an app using an extension to place itself in the quicksettings or similar.

Like: Syncthing, Nextcloud, VPN apps. How would they display their small info and sync status?

boredsquirrel ,

There literally was an implementation that was dropped, and I think it is clear that a PR for a better one would be dropped too.

Instead, GNOME users can stare at an empty panel, while KDE Plasma saves screen space and still has a panel with apps and all needed infos.

boredsquirrel ,

On Android apps abuse the persistant notification for just that, while app indicators or a specific area to place those would be way better.

I mostly mute the notifications as they are so annoying, but it is very bad to not have them too.

boredsquirrel ,

Try "keyboard shortcuts" and select some action, then use the button as input, or look in the mouse settings.

Is there a "nothing" action? May be useful here.

boredsquirrel ,

Pretty damn cool! Using it since a while.

Have to say the UI is really strange though. Tbh I find all players kinda strange, G4Music is likely the best.

I just want

  • folder view, playlists, artists, albums, all
  • play one of these (not create a playlist and then play that)
  • save and sync playlists from and to .m3u files

Still struggling to get synced playlists between android (anrimians music player) and Linux. Anyone got tips?

boredsquirrel ,

Resource usage is expected to stay minimal as there will be no multithreating possible, if I understood the comment correctly.

boredsquirrel ,

Yes it is, I dont know the technical details but KDE tends to freeze a lot. I dont know if it is impossible? Why cant apps just have a UI that always works, and the process may freeze doesnt matter?

Discover - possible to limit download speed?

Hi, sadly I have a very limited internet connection (10 Mbit). When I'm watching a video and then install something in Discover, it takes almost all the bandwidth and the video begins to stutter & buffer. Somebody knows if there's a way to limit the download speed for discover - preferably without installing additional software?

boredsquirrel ,

This only works when not using a VPN, do it is not a solution for all

boredsquirrel ,

I think using a VPN on the router is great, but this doesnt work for mobile devices at all. Especially the situation "public wifi" is not dealt with.

boredsquirrel ,

Yeah but then it is not the only solution.

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This week in KDE: megabytes and gigabytes for all

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boredsquirrel ,

Today I learned that stuff is called Kibibytes, Mebibytes and Gibibytes

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boredsquirrel ,

Sehr coole Aktion!

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Impressions after a week using KDE Neon: Amazing

It's been fairly stable as I would expect from an LTS. There's LOT of hiccups with whatever is happening in the tray area (power and battery sometimes doesn't work).

Language is pretty screwed up. I speak both English/Spanish in a Spanish location. Installer chooses half spanish and english in the /etc/locale, and has issues changing it in the frontend.

Overall nothing I can't fix as I put stability overall

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boredsquirrel ,

I recommend Fedora Kinoite :D

boredsquirrel ,

Yes, you have a new version every half year. That version is supported for 13 months though, so when the release after the next release comes out, you have time to upgrade to the next-old release. If you want a more stable system with more tested packages.

Or you can just upgrade. I already tried Fedora 40 (back then rawhide, as it was not branched) for testing Plasma 6, and it was way better than KDE Neon. It is just so much more stable, Idk why.

I had tons of bugs but those where all plasma bugs which I could report.

It is no issue at all to upgrade, especially on atomic desktops. Like, upgrading Debian 11-12 was scary, upgrading atomic means you end in 1:1 the system they have on their servers (plus your local changes) so they are stable as heck and dont fail. If they fail, you still have your current system.

If you "pin" the current system (sudo ostree admin pin 0) you keep it. So if the upgrade introduces some regressions, you can just choose the older system in GRUB, and you could rpm-ostree rollback to stay there.

boredsquirrel , (edited )

I asked about kdenlive already. Every community needs moderators and here it seems they need to be KDE contributors

boredsquirrel ,

So I guess we now have 2 voluntary kdenlive moderators? (Me and you)

boredsquirrel ,

Otherwise we may end up like GrapheneOS ;D a community moderated by stressed out devs with bad people skills

boredsquirrel OP ,

Damn! True!

Will update the post!

So typst + LSP + Kate = perfect Editor !

boredsquirrel OP ,

Now, if you would also have an idea how to spawn 2 processes from one shell script, that would be awesome!

Use case: desktop entry to open .typ files.

  • process 1: open a terminal window with typst watch %f and detach process
  • process 2: open some-editor %f and detach process

I would love to either just add those entries as "applications", or create Dolphin context menus.

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Is there an option in plasma to snap mouse pointer automatically to default button in a dialog box?

boredsquirrel ,

No. But this sounds possible with an extension.

boredsquirrel ,

Lol. Singlefile does this with HTML.

boredsquirrel ,

That should also be possible with virtual desktops

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