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brianshatchet , to Politics in Panicked Trump Wants Georgia Evidence Tossed to Stop Third Indictment

If he didn't do anything wrong he doesn't have anything to worry about. - Republicans when it comes to minorities.

Col3814444 OP , to Politics in Inside Trump’s Fascist Plan to Control All Federal Agencies if He Wins

America dies if Trump becomes President again.

HandsHurtLoL , to Politics in Inside Trump’s Fascist Plan to Control All Federal Agencies if He Wins

This was pretty skimpy of a read.

andrewta , to Politics in Class: Boebert Literally Tosses Pin Honoring School Shooting Victim in Trash

What are the odds on her winning another election?

TheHighRoad ,
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She only won the last one by ~530 votes, so I’d say she’s losing her luster. Hence the increasingly outrageous behavior in an attempt to shore up the craze baze.

xc2215x , to Politics in Class: Boebert Literally Tosses Pin Honoring School Shooting Victim in Trash

She is no better than MTG.

Nougat ,

Is anyone claiming she is?

Calcharger , to Politics in Class: Boebert Literally Tosses Pin Honoring School Shooting Victim in Trash
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Here's the issue - the video never actually confirms it's her. It looks like her from the back, and I bet you can find evidence online of the date that she wore that outfit and confirm it, but the right will just roll their eyes and move on. All this video serves is to rile us up against her.

If you're gonna interact with her and try to get a reaction from her on camera, make sure you get her face.

o_o , to Texas in [New Republic] Texas Governor Signs “Death Star” Bill Stripping Power From Local Officials

Seems like Florida and Texas are trying to out get rid of “big government” by removing all of the basic rights everything is based on. Its just consolidation of power for tyrants under the guise of “Freedom”

Brunbrun6766 OP Mod ,
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In reality they are creating their own Big Government to rule over all the local governments. Idiots that back and vote for them are completely silent about that tyrannical government they’ve been waiting to come knocking on their doors

Col3814444 OP , (edited ) to Politics in News: Mask Off: DeSantis Staffer Reportedly Shares Video of DeSantis and Giant Nazi Symbol

Holy fuck, it’s not even mildly subtle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol)

Also, how dare those Nazi fucks bespoil Kate Bush’s wonderful music like that. I hope she sues the living fuck out of them.

-edit, notice also; ‘Make America Florida’. and ‘God’ superimposed over DeSantis.

Laffytaffer ,

It’s subtle only in the sense that most regular people don’t know what the black sun is. My wife got me this keychain that had some pagan symbols on it with a black sun snuck in as well, she had no idea until I told her.

be_excellent_to_each_other ,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

I admit I got all the way to the end waiting for the swastika, and figured, "eh, well it must be that thing."

Thing is, while I find this entirely plausible, unless there's an archive.org of the tweet before deletion, I don't think we can credibly tie this back to anything DeSantis wanted or approved.

He's in my top 5 list of people actively trying to destroy the US, but unless the provenance of the linked video can be proven I don't see this going anywhere. Folks who hate him aren't surprised, folks who don't will ask for more proof, DeSantis will deny if he acknowledges it at all.

Jaytreeman ,

My only pushback is how much evidence do you need? He's anti-latin, anti-gay, anti-teans and uses neo-nazi imagery.
Anyone that's willing to ignore one of those because it's not explicit enough, is highly suspect.

be_excellent_to_each_other ,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

I completely agree with you, but that still leave the minds that will be changed by this existence of this video at zero, the way I read it. Yes it's appalling, but he was appalling before the video too.

Jaytreeman ,

The people that can't have their minds changed are fascists. You should thank them for making it clear

be_excellent_to_each_other ,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

Absolutely fair point I'm just saying I don't think the existence of this moves the needle in any way in the current environment. It can't even be used in a campaign smear against him without being verifiable as to its origin and his approval of it.

TL;DR: Entertaining, but not whatsoever the immediate career destroyer that it could have been, or that we all would have hoped for.

crowsby ,
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The NYT is reporting that it was actually produced by the DeSantis campaign, which is doing nothing to disavow the notion.

p03locke ,
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Wow, using Kate Bush’s music is ironic as hell.

Col3814444 OP ,

Song about a man and a woman changing bodies, no less.

p03locke ,
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Fortunate Son isn’t a national anthem to use political campaigning, either, but Trump and other dumbasses use it, anyway.

nicetriangle ,
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Yeah my first thought as well

spaduf , to Politics in News: Mask Off: DeSantis Staffer Reportedly Shares Video of DeSantis and Giant Nazi Symbol
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Interesting story but I’m a little unnerved that the website says “APOCALYPSE SOON” at the top.

TokenBoomer , to Politics in News: Mask Off: DeSantis Staffer Reportedly Shares Video of DeSantis and Giant Nazi Symbol

That staffer wants a promotion

falsem , (edited ) to Politics in News: Mask Off: DeSantis Staffer Reportedly Shares Video of DeSantis and Giant Nazi Symbol

I don't like the guy either but this is shitty source. "Some guy on twitter said a thing happened but you can't see it verified anywhere else now!"

dulce_3t_decorum_3st ,
@dulce_3t_decorum_3st@lemmy.world avatar

Except the actual video is widely available.

NoIWontPickaName ,

Link?

I'm lazy and uninformed, I'd like to be neither, but 1 is better than none.

Arotrios ,
@Arotrios@kbin.social avatar

From the article - be warned, it's a TwitX link.

Unaware7013 ,

Wow, even discounting the blatant Nazi imagery, that was absolutely terrible

Arotrios ,
@Arotrios@kbin.social avatar

Yeah. I sincerely hope Kate Bush's lawyers get a copy.

JonEFive ,

Honesty award

falsem ,

The claim is that someone from his staff shared it on an official Twitter account, which is unverifiable. Unless you know some way to view deleted tweets that I'm not aware of.

HandsHurtLoL ,

I saw your report and did not act on it because this site ranks with an acceptable reliability score from the media bias chart we use.

As moderators, we cannot ascertain the veracity of individual stories from white listed sources. You can use the link in the side bar to check the reliability rating of any source before reporting it; we only remove items ranking below a 32 reliability score.

falsem ,

Perhaps that threshold is too low then if this is what a "34" is.

HandsHurtLoL ,

You operate here on a voluntary basis.

JonEFive ,

Susinct and savage. I like it.

For what it's worth, I think the community is doing just fine at pointing out that a direct link to DeSantis isn't presently verifiable, and it is creating reasonable discussion.

falsem ,

Are you threatening me? Go ahead and ban me if this is how you want to run things. I meant it as feedback on the rules, if you can't take feedback on that please ban me.

Drusas ,

The comment was not meant to be a threat but a statement of fact--you are welcome to participate or not.

Our rules, in fact, are entirely based on community feedback. Before implementing them, we had multiple discussions on what the users of the magazine wanted to see. We will also be reviewing the rules at a later date, so that people can share feedback on what they have liked and what they would like to see changed. However, we've had rules for something like two weeks at this point, so it's a little soon for that. You would be perfectly welcome to create a meta discussion on the topic. If one of the rules turns out to need addressing promptly, I'm sure we can do so, and that will also be based on community feedback.

Finally, no, we don't ban people just because they get angry about something and/or ask to be banned.

crowsby ,
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How about the New York Times, and it turns out it wasn't just shared by the DeSantis campaign, but produced by it and then sent to an "outside supporter" to actually tweet, so they could maintain plausible deniability.

One recent move that drew intense blowback, including from Republicans, was the campaign’s sharing of a bizarre video on Twitter that attacked Mr. Trump as too friendly to L.G.B.T.Q. people and showed Mr. DeSantis with lasers coming out of his eyes. The video drew a range of denunciations, with some calling it homophobic and others homoerotic before it was deleted.

But it turns out to be more of a self-inflicted wound than was previously known: A DeSantis campaign aide had originally produced the video internally, passing it off to an outside supporter to post it first and making it appear as if it was generated independently, according to a person with knowledge of the incident.

akai , to Politics in Trump’s Legal Team Just Blew a Big Hole in His Third Indictment Defense
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Team Trump, only the best... 🙃

Jaysyn , to Politics in Trump’s Legal Team Just Blew a Big Hole in His Third Indictment Defense
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I think they're setting the stage for more Jan. 6 events

FAFO. The Capitol police won't be hamstrung this time & will have their sub-machine guns.

borkcorkedforks ,

Events don't have to happen at the capital. Local governments could have problems. We'd have fewer problems if Republican leaders were more willing to throw Trump under the bus instead of trying to court his base.

e_t_ Admin , to Politics in Trump’s Legal Team Just Blew a Big Hole in His Third Indictment Defense

FATHER: Please, please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion! Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who. We are here today to witness the union of two young people in the joyful bond of the holy wedlock. Unfortunately, one of them, my son Herbert, has just fallen to his death. But I think I've not lost a son, so much as... gained a daughter! For, since the tragic death of her father —
RANDOM: He's not quite dead!
FATHER: Since the near fatal wounding of her father —
RANDOM: He's getting better!
FATHER: For, since her own father... who, when he seemed about to recover, suddenly felt the icy hand of death upon him, —
[ugh]
RANDOM: Oh, he's died!
FATHER: And I want his only daughter to look upon me... as her own dad — in a very real, and legally binding sense.

brothershamus ,
@brothershamus@kbin.social avatar

He just wanted to get his hands on those huge tracts of land

theodewere , to Politics in Trump’s Legal Team Just Blew a Big Hole in His Third Indictment Defense
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they're doing their best to cause as much chaos as possible, yeah.. that's all they've got.. like comic book villains throwing babies out windows so Spidey can't end their reign of terror..

grahamsz ,

It's the right play politically. Consider if the roles were reversed.

If Bernie Sanders was arrested for breaking into Walmart headquarters and demanding they unionize, he'd absolutely say something like "It's not about breaking the law, it's about standing up for the millions of Americans who are struggling to make ends meet while the Walton family continues to amass wealth. That's what this is about. It's not about me, it's about us."

His supporters believe in his cause and they'd absolutely eat that up. I don't really get why people are so into thuggish authoritarian rule - but if that's what gets you up in the morning, then seeing Trump admit to this is surely exciting.

HandsHurtLoL ,

It's fun to completely make shit up about other people, isn't it?

grahamsz ,

I was trying to come up with a hamfisted analogy and clearly missed the mark.

I'm pretty sure Bernie has actually been arrested at civil rights protest, so that's probably a better example. I actually think that makes him more qualified to be president.

Presumably trump enthusiasts feel similarly about his mounting list of felonies. I think that should immediately disqualify him from being considered as a candidate, but a lot of people obviously don't and I have to assume that's because they believe in authoritarian psuedo-dictatorship in the same way I believe in civil rights.

999 ,

I think it was a good point. It was just misinterpreted by someone who is hoping to get into an argument, I think. :)

theodewere ,
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

Consider if the roles were reversed.

i won't consider any of that, because it's completely divorced from reality

grahamsz ,

I think you have your head in the sand.

In a rational world this would completely shatter his chances for any presidential nomination from a major party (or probably the first indictment would)

However, there are a good number of people who believe so firmly in trump that they'll view this in exactly the same light as a left wing leader being arrested at a civil rights protest or admitting they smoked weed. To them this is a feather in his cap, it burnishes his credentials as being anti-establishment and proves whatever batshit conspiracy theories he's spouting.

I think democrats are too quick to overlook that risk and I think that's dangerous.

theodewere , (edited )
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

you have your head in the sand.

son, your head is inside a bucket of crabs, riding a Tilt-o-Whirl

doublejay ,

It isn’t really .

.

It’s a good point clumsily made.

We all know that Bernie’s arguments have always been sincere and fact based. We know that Trumps are dishonest and held for his convenience, but the magas Don’t know or don’t care

theodewere ,
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

It’s a good point clumsily made.

i disagree

doublejay ,

Elections 101: at all costs, avoid an informed and rational electorate

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