Fans reacting to the announcement of Star Trek: The Next Generation ( lemmy.world )

It’s so bizarre to read this in the present, knowing how incredible TNG was, but I get it - the original crew WAS Star Trek to them.

The dedicated fans revived this series in syndication, well after it had gone off the air in 1969, and felt attached to the characters that they had obsessed over between then and the 1980s. Like modern fans, they thought that departure from what they knew would ruin it.

I wish I could go back in time and tell them that TNG is going to rock.

Hazdaz ,

TNG > OG series any day, everyday.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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It took me a long time to reach this conclusion. I love TOS, and the characters are cultural icons, but when I want to fanboy over the whole “philosophy” of Star Trek, I’m thinking of TNG every single time.

Hazdaz ,

I’ll probably get wrecked in here for saying this,but I never liked TOS. It’s so campy and hokey. Even the movies with the original cast don’t interest me all that much. I respect them for paving the way for TNG, but I’ll never choose TOS over TNG.

CrayonMaster ,

TOS is fun to watch in an ironic, cult classic, campy, laughing-at-it-not-with-it way. TNG was the first actually good star trek.

BeigeAgenda ,
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I have never watched TOS, but I have watched all the TOS movies and I am fond of them.

Hazdaz ,

I wouldn’t say they are related at all, at least in terms of how the TV comes off vs the movies even though the cast is the same. TOS TV show is not too dissimilar to the old school Batman show in it’s corniness. Not to that level of silliness, but they were contemporaries of each other when they aired on TV in the late 60s.

wjmalik ,
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@Hazdaz @BeigeAgenda the hippie vibe was part of the general campy tone those days - see The Man from U. N. C. L. E., Rowan and Martin's Laugh In, That Was The Week That Was, or The Wild Wild West for other variations on that theme. Hi-tech, Steampunk, SciFi, variety, news spoofs - all had similar tone

Hazdaz ,

Oh I get that was the tone of shows back then. Get Smart was another one. It’s just not my cup of tea for the most part.

Of course the irony is that I think shows (especially movies) these days are too serious and I almost wish they were a little more fun and playful like they were back in the 60s/70s. Just as long as they don’t go too silly.

kamenlady ,
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I always barely get through TOS’ third season, it leaned too much into the psychedelic feel of the era.

wjmalik ,
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@kamenlady big Yes. "Come now, to Eden, oh, brother" indeed. Just a tad too much Tim Leary.

rdviii ,
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@BeigeAgenda @Hazdaz
I'm old enough that there was only one Trek when I started. My take on a recent rewatch: https://rdvlivefromtokyo.blogspot.com/2021/09/ranking-star-trek-original-series.html?m=1

ZoopZeZoop ,

I agree. TOS has some interesting characters and fun moments, but I just can’t get into like I get into TNG. TNG is a series I can watch start to finish and all the movies and then start right over and watch it all again. TOS is one I might re-watch every 5+ years to refresh my memory, but I’ll put it on exclusively while I’m doing something else so I don’t waste my attention. My Dad loves TOS and TNG, and regularly references TOS, expecting me to remember episode names and whole plot lines. Oops.

zaphod ,
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That’s actually why can rewatch TOS endlessly but TNG only occasionally. TOS is that light popcorn fare that’s entertaining but you don’t take very seriously. TNG is serious sci-fi that challenges the audience often with very difficult subject matter. The latter is objectively the better show but if I’m looking for something to throw on for casual fun, for me it’s TOS all the way.

kamenlady ,
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Same, though there’s one i can really watch endlessly: TAS. Giant Spock melting minds with normal Spock always gets me.

AEsheron ,

I tried to go back and watch it as part of a kind of personal nerd pilgrimage. I just couldn’t get through it to save my life. Then I hit the beginning of TNG and was shocked, that was not what I remembered at all from all the reruns I saw growing up. I’m honestly still kind of shocked it lasted long enough to grow the beard.

Hazdaz ,

I really think that can be said for a lot of shows. First few episodes, and sometimes the first few seasons don’t hit like the later ones. Simpsons, Seinfeld, TNG, Arrested Development and a lot of other shows were constantly on the cusp of getting canceled until they got their audience and the writers hit their stride with the story.

It happens so much to shows that we know ended up turning out good, that it always makes me wonder how many shows were canceled a few episodes or maybe a season or two sooner than they should have.

abbadon420 ,

That is very well said. Tng embodies the philosophy of start trek better.

eran_morad ,

Unfair advantage, TNG has Picard.

Hazdaz , (edited )

Picard is definitely the top card there, but seriously the rest of the cast was damn good too.

Had a rather large crush on Beverly and Troy. Hubba hubba

eran_morad ,

mos def

Dee ,
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I actually don’t think he had a role in TNG.

lingh0e ,

He may have been credited under his birth name Dante Smith… or his new name Yasiin Bey. In any case he’s most definitely Mos Def.

HandwovenConsensus ,

Star Trek: Picard has Picard too…

Hupf ,

Unfortunately, it also has hubris.

eldavi ,

unpopular opinion: the first 3 seasons of tng were the best

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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Ooh, that’s a spicy take. I like it.

xgebi ,
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@eldavi @Hazdaz I’m happy that Star Trek is big enough for a lot of people to find their favorite parts. I love all the engine room scenes in VOY

loom_in_essence ,

I love the first two seasons for their episodic adventure structure. But I also greatly appreciate the character driven structure of seasons 3+ and I definitely think the aesthetic changes for s3 were an unadulterated improvement.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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It’s also funny that the article suggests that Laforge is the new Spock, and not obviously Data.

Coehl ,
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Yeah, the author was pretty obviously decided on his position and accuracy was an afterthought. But if you check his name, you’ll realize he makes a mean spicy chicken sandwich fwiw

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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I just noticed that he also spelled Riker as “Ryker”

drewx0r ,

That one actually isn’t a mistake. His last name was spelled “Ryker” when they were developing the show.

memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/William_T._Riker#Cha…

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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Ah, I wondered! They were clearly thinking that the Y makes it more science fictiony.

transwarp ,

If you read the initial material, Data is drastically different. There is no explicit mention of being unemotional, just that he tends to speak more formally. He’s supposed to be more like the Ilia probe than Spock.

Worf didn’t exist at first, so Geordi the teacher with bionic vision would be the most “other” character. If they’d seen any of the early press material for Phase II, Spock’s replacement there was a very junior officer.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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Wow, could you imagine the show without Worf? It just wouldn’t feel right.

transwarp ,

The idea was that the Klingons had joined the Federation and we’d see Klingon Starfleet personnel in the background. When they did add Worf, he was to be more frequently Data’s relief than Yar’s.

NathanielThomas ,

I never got into original series (and I existed before TNG) but something about TNG clicked.

Picard was a man of culture, not some Macho man to sleep with aliens of different colours.

Riker really came into his own as a second and had a different personality and perspective that added to the show

Data explored the concepts of AI and sentience and that mankind could create a new being (The measure of a man episode).

Jordi Laforge was inspiring that people with disabilities could be important and high ranking and overcome those challenges.

Sure, OS has its charm with fake Scottish man and Sulu and the radical idea not all Russians were insane. But I mean, Bones was just such a cliche (dammit Jim) and never really grew on me the way I’m sure he did the generation that loved John Wayne.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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Yeah, what was revolutionary in the 1960s (humans of all nationalities working together) wouldn’t have been enough in 1987, but I appreciate that it set the groundwork for the series as a whole.

The acting in TOS is over the top and often silly, but I try to watch it as a product of its time - audiences didn’t really want their shows to have an edge or get deeply philosophical back then, so Roddenberry and team had to sneak that type of stuff in where they could. I have a soft spot for TOS and the campy characters and still think it’s a fun lighthearted watch.

TimewornTraveler ,

Haha, Spock wasn’t replaced by LaForge. Spock was replaced by Data.

theangryseal ,

Yeah, who even thought that for a second?

I grew up with Next Generation first, sitting on my dad’s lap watching the show with him.

When I first watched TOS I remember seeing Spock and saying, “oh yeah, the original Data”.

T156 ,

Especially since Spock was often described by Bones as being a walking computer, and Data was described as an Android. It would be less of a logical leap than having Geordi be the new Spock.

TimewornTraveler ,

I remember thinking, “I don’t wanna watch a Trek without Spock,” and then Data came along and I was hooked.

Blimp7990 ,

Somehow every character except the black man has a name, and every actor except the black one gets a serious headshot. hmm.

maegul ,
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Yep, I noticed that too … it’s pretty damn obvious actually!

WhoRoger ,
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Wdym, Burton has a normal photo and the character is named among the others. Stewart’s picture is from a performance, so also different.

Also funny how you’re complaining about someone not getting named, and you’re just referring to him as a black man.

Blimp7990 , (edited )

you’re just referring to him as a black man.

yes, in this case the pertinent piece of information is not that he is hero of all 80’s childrens’ childhoods, book advocate and reading rainbow star LeVar Burton. what matters for the point i am trying to make is that i am presuming the pov of the editor of that article: oh, hes the black guy who is gonna be the new spock. (his character name is not “the new spock”)

its ok to do that. I don’t think LeVar Burton is going to not get the point.

NoSpotOfGround ,

It also feels like they intentionally picked that photo for contrast value: smiling so broadly when that is something “the original Spock” never did. They were going for the outrage factor, truth be damned.

Blimp7990 ,

i like this idea, could buy that

CeruleanRuin ,

Was that part of the marketing at the time, or just some bizarre leap from the author? I’m having a hard time finding any good comparisons between La Forge and Spock. In season 1 Geordi wasn’t even in engineering, let alone the science officer. He was a helmsman, so in that sense more comparable to Sulu or Chekhov, and he certainly doesn’t have anything like the relationship with the captain that Spock did.

Is it just because he was a recognizable name at the time? It’s just a weird jump to make.

julianh ,

It’s always funny looking back at stuff like this. I remember looking at old articles about Catherine Tate becoming a companion in doctor who and people were furious - and in retrospect not only was she one of the best companions, but that was probably the greatest era of the show.

runjun ,

Heath Ledger is another classic example. I remember the Internet being so confused and mad about the choice. ‘The 10 Things I Hate About You guy!?’

andrewrgross ,
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I came here to post this. I remember someone insisting it was like casting Gary Coleman as Two-Face.

Although the response wasn’t as strong, there were fans who were also convinced that Robert Downey Jr. was a poor fit for Tony Stark.

cogman ,

Iron man was a hail mary by Marvel. Their IP was failing. RDJ was a lucky casting. Given where he was at at the time he was a pretty risky pick. Marvel didn’t really have the budget to be too picky at the time.

There’s a reason Spiderman is owned by sony and the hulk by universal.

Zorque ,

And FF and X-Men by Fox before their acquisition.

MegaUltraChicken ,
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Same thing with Michael Keaton as Batman. He was still Mr Mom at that point.

Klear ,

And Craig as Bond.

acockworkorange ,

No, they were right about that one.

UESPA_Sputnik ,
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Nobody dislikes Star Trek as much as Star Trek fans.

someguy3 ,

Damn Star Trek fans, they ruined Star Trek!

pimento64 ,

This is actually true though

AngrilyEatingMuffins ,

Still better than Star Wars fans, though. Same as it ever was

T156 ,

I remain slightly miffed about how Dr Pulaski, one of the few characters that received any development in TNG S2, was so hated by some fans that it caused to Diane Muldur to swear off of Trek altogether.

She might not have entirely understood Data to begin with, but she did become better at that later on, a stark contrast to much of the rest of the Federation, which would still be arguing whether he, or his children had personhood, and is the only Starfleet Doctor in RetroTrek to actively take an interest in and engage with her patient’s cultures.

I can’t envision early Dr Crusher taking part in Worf’s Klingon tea ceremony, for example.

PuppyOSAndCoffee ,
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LOL. The TNG hate was ridiculous, but one other thing - nobody ignores a Star Trek fan better than other fans of Star Trek.

teft ,
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https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/9abcdb4f-c75c-44c4-a44c-5668687f6348.jpeg

Holzkohlen ,

I thought that was a Star Wars thing, but I guess it’s just a thing in general. For reference I like it all, Star Wars, Star Trek, TOS, TNG

misterundercoat ,

“LeVar Burton: The new Spock” 👀

Nmyownworld ,
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There were Star Trek fans at the time screaming from the rooftops about how TNG would ruin Star Trek. Before TNG even aired. But, there were also Star Trek fans who, while disappointed to not have the TOS crew back, were curious about what TNG was going to bring to the table. And, really happy to have a Star Trek series again. But, “Curious Trekkies Wait to See What’s What with TNG” wasn’t going to sell as many papers and stir up as much drama.

match ,
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Well, they probably have one point - how many modern Trek fans have even watched TOS?

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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Surely most, right?

I’m a millennial, and TOS was my first introduction to Trek.

v_krishna ,
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1985, TNG was definitely my introduction, really even Voyager and then got into TNG from there. I haven’t seen more than a couple TOS episodes but have seen everything else (except the animated ones, and many of the old movies barely watched once)

AngrilyEatingMuffins ,

I’ve seen maybe a quarter of the episodes. Seen every other trek episode multiple times. I know it’s blasphemy but trek got a lot better post Roddenberry

Nmyownworld ,
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A lot, I think. At the time of TNG’s initial broadcast, TOS was omnipresent in syndication. And outside of TAS, the only Star Trek series at the time. Star Trek fans watched the heck out of TOS. Then, the Star Trek movies with the TOS cast. The first four films were released before TNG first aired.

match ,
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Friend, I hate to say this, but TNG aired 35 years ago…

Nmyownworld ,
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I’m aware. So is the newspaper article this post is about.

SulaymanF ,

“Bad Trek is better than no Trek” was the begrudging opinion for the first season of TNG.

Nmyownworld ,
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Lol. That was it. I’m glad TNG had more seasons, getting better and better as time went on.

TrustingZebra ,

There were Star Trek fans at the time screaming from the rooftops about how TNG would ruin Star Trek.

Is this what people had to do to spread their word before the internet?

altima_neo , (edited )
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Wasnt it 20 years later too? I mean the og crew probably didn’t want to come back

Nmyownworld ,
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Yeah. The TOS cast did movies, but there’s a difference between doing a film and doing a weekly series. TOS was comfort viewing, and fans were going to fan in wanting more of the same.

CeruleanRuin ,

Clickbait certainly existed well before clicks did.

scarabic ,

I’ll bet that any TOS fans who were furious at the time probably did not go on to like the show. If they were looking for that witty love/hate triangle of Spock/Kirk/McCoy they didn’t get it.

But as the name suggests, TNG reached a totally new generation of fans. American culture had changed a LOT between these two shows and anyone attached to the old one was either old themselves or hooked on reruns.

TNG didn’t slap big right away, either. It took time to get good and find its audience. But I’m so glad they succeeded.

I say all this to point out that angry fans weren’t actually wrong. The Trek they knew was never coming back. It became a whole other thing for a whole other group of people.

The difference between this and, say, the Star Wars sequels is that those sequels disappointed fans AND failed to find a new audience that was just as dedicated and even larger.

People like to use this article to show that angry fans are just idiots- always there and usually wrong. But the TNG miracle hasn’t been repeated many times, if ever, by any of these other franchise rehashes that a Hollywood has shoved out to grab for cash.

BlinkAndItsGone ,

I’ll bet that any TOS fans who were furious at the time probably did not go on to like the show.

As a TOS fan who wasn’t too happy with what I had heard before TNG came out, I would bet against you. Most of them probably became TNG fans eventually, because the most impactful thing a show can do is simply to be great. Canon complaints are mostly about nostalgia, and if the show is compelling (especially if it’s compelling in a similar way to the old show), nostalgia can’t compete. If anything I’d guess that the people in this article were more likely to become fans of TNG, because it would have exceeded their expectations, which can make things seem better than they would otherwise.

Asymptote ,

If you’ve seen the original Battlestar Galactica you’ll know why they were worried.

Only good thing about that show was that in space, bras were unpopular.

EhList ,
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They made a soft scifi show that little kids could enjoy featuring the guy who likes animals and did Alpo commercials. BSG wasn’t bad. It just wasn’t great like Dr Who or Buck Rodgers were at the time.

Asymptote ,

Don’t get me wrong I love braless women in the prime of their 20s.

GratefullyGodless ,
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That’s because, according to renown space expert George Lucas, wearing a bra in space would strangle the wearer, which is why Princess Leia jiggled her way around the Death Star. So, it’s not that they were unpopular, just that they were a safety issue.

AEsheron ,

I mean, she wasn’t jiggling. Carrie had often complained about how tightly bound she was, he specifically didn’t want that look either. Nothing at all in that outfit would have honestly made a huge difference in how the whole thing felt I think, at least in hindsight it would really cheapen it.

ICastFist ,
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The only thing I wish TNG did from the get go, or kept from season 2 onwards, was Dr. Pulaski. She was simply a much better character and doctor than Crusher, she fit in with the rest of the crew much better as well.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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She was so reminiscent of McCoy

maegul ,
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Including, most importantly probably, naturally having the believable ability to stand up against the captain. There’s natural chemistry in that sort of dynamic, you’re almost waiting for a plot line to come along that splits them against each other.

xT1TANx ,

I was fine with the character but hated the actress. She was an old crone and didn’t mesh into the ensemble IMO. The same for Natasha. Her acting chops were simple subpar.

Maho ,
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I don’t remember Tasha being more subpar than the rest of the cast, the first two seasons were abysmal compared to seasons 3+.

xT1TANx , (edited )

I may be biased. I started in s4 and then went back to watch everything. I had no idea who Yar was and then didn’t like her acting. Her reactions to things seems forced. Her character had a rough upbringing but how the actress tries to portray it felt disjointed to me. The same for when she was trying to be attractive in scenes. I felt like she didn’t know how to act. And then when she was made to play a Romulan omg. She was terrible.

BlinkAndItsGone ,

Were you really a Trekkie if you thought TNG was going to be good in 1987?

Kidding, sort of. But I remember thinking it was going to be a cash grab, and I still think I was right to think so at the time. Keep in mind, you couldn’t go on the Web and instantly know everything about an upcoming TV show. I think I learned it was in production from the back of a cereal box. I didn’t even know Gene Roddenberry was involved. The Enterprise-D design was pretty weird, and the cast of characters was more than a bit out there–a Klingon? On the Enterprise crew? Come on.

twopaw ,
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@The_Picard_Maneuver TNG was the first new-run, live television show- Trek show, too, fairly put- I asked and obtained permission to stay up to watch. I was 9 years old for most of 1987; on my 10th birthday that year I got to see Star Trek IV in a film theatre with my two older brothers, both Trekkermen themselves, who got their Sir Klingon into the brotherly business of Trek, comic books and science fiction soon and unquickly met after I was oot the chute at the end of 1977.

I always mistake The Voyage Home's release date for 1987 and not 1986, because the former was my ceremony.

twopaw ,
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@The_Picard_Maneuver I knew that depending on the rented reel-print, some pressed cannisters of The Voyage Home included an early-remit trailer for The Next Generation by timing; I have no recollection of whether I saw that preview or not on my birthday at the Palace Theatre on Pape Avenue, north of Danforth Avenue, 36 years ago. I know I eventually saw a transcoded copy on Youtube, sometime probably in the last 15 years.

To be fair, I really liked and like TNG, despite its limits; although in retrospect I think it missed the point: Humanity by then is not perfect, but never wished to be.

twopaw ,
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@The_Picard_Maneuver And therein really lay the rub for me, why it was often difficult to take seriously, even if some of TNG's stories were likely as good as the best science-fiction I've ever enjoyed and I posit were indeed so: every major character on the show who stuck around for all seven seasons was a caricature I could see right through, certainly full-time cast members.

It was like watching The Landlord's Play from The Big Lebowski, with the parts played by Starfleet officers and their families onboard taking the parts of high school popularity and jock and nerd clique students.

twopaw ,
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@The_Picard_Maneuver And everything they did was completely defensible, no matter how horrible, how absurdly careless and abysmally stupid, despite their irony by cosmone in claiming perfection; they said it was Trek, Reborn. Oftentimes, it was Trek, Reduced. It really didn't quite understand what it was, most of the time, although I don't remotely fault any one actor, writer or idea man or woman involved.

Hell, the head prop designer, Rick Sternbach, is a fellow Furry enthusiast, and by a far earlier generation than mine a big fan of Steve Gallacci's Albedo: Anthropomorphics.

twopaw ,
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@The_Picard_Maneuver And TNG almost yeeted me off the Trek-boat closet airlock.
One character in particular, a throwaway living prop and emotional forcefeedback character foil, written up by a minor, unprolific sci-fi writer with only two episodes to her name- the other DS9's Babel, which wasn't even entirely of her authoring; it was co-written by the showrunner Ira Stephen Behr- and who's now very happy to claim she invented him (bullshit; he invented you), happily rode off his coattails when it turned out people thought he was a better person than everyone who called him Broccoli.

LedgeDrop ,

As a kid, I saw a contest on a box of cheerios(?) where you could be an child extra in one of the first TNG episodes. So for most of the first season, I sincerely thought Wil Wheaton/Wesley was the winner.

Anyway, the first few episodes during season 1 were not great, but I was content to finally get some new material. I’m glad TNG had enough time to “find its own groove”.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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Man, that cereal box really launched Wheaton’s career. Haha

Siliconic ,

Well, he didn’t have much of an acting career after TNG. I would highly recommend Wil Wheaton’s book Still Just A Geek that he just published a few months ago, I’ve been listening to the audiobook (read by Wheaton) and it’s really good, and there’s some stuff that’s “exclusive” to the audio version (stuff he thought of as he was reading it again lol)

kamenlady ,
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I liked him in Leverage

MajorHavoc ,

It’s fair to have expected TNG to be a cash grab. I’m sure TNG was a cash grab among all the other things it was. We all want to get paid, after all. I’m just glad it turned out to be so much more as well.

I’m reminded of the letters page of Aquaman in the issue after he lost his hand.

“To those of you saying we did it for the shock value, we have this to say for ourselves: we sure didn’t do it for the boredom value.”

lightnsfw ,

Help Geordi is staring into my soul.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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There had to be a better picture of him to use, lol

WizzCaleeba ,

Nope, that’s the best picture I’ve ever seen of him.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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Counterpoint:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8fa37ea9-cfbb-45ac-a1f8-306ccece3b70.png

eran_morad ,

dope af

musictechgeek ,

LeVar Burton has striking eyes to begin with. When a person is used to seeing him as Geordi with his visor on, seeing him with it off is like he has 100 watt bulbs screwed into his head.

startrekexplained ,

This is why I don’t pay attention to the initial nerd reception

AngrilyEatingMuffins ,

Angry neckbeards never change. Check out the reaction to the casting of Burton’s Batman

Blackmist ,

Or Heath Ledger as The Joker.

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