Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Lower Decks | 4x01 "Twovix" and 4x02 "I Have No Bones Yet I Must Flee"

"Twovix" loglineThe Cerritos ensigns must assist a caretaker on the voyage of a historically significant starship.

Written by: Mike McMahan

Directed by: Barry J. Kelly & Jason Zurek

"I Have No Bones Yet I Must Flee" loglineMariner tries to get demoted, Rutherford tries to get promoted, and Boimler makes a big move.

Written by: Aaron Burdette

Directed by: Megan Lloyd

UESPA_Sputnik ,
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I grinned like an idiot throughout the first episode because of all the Voyager callbacks but I got the biggest laugh in the second episode when Boimler goes to his new quaters and the room is bright red because of the glowing nacelle. I had to pause because I was laughing so much. For the past ~30 years I always wondered what crew quarters which face towards the nacelles were like. Thank you, Lower Decks.

CeruleanRuin ,

Shax could have just told him about the built-in filters on the windows, but he secretly wanted someone to hear his holodeck “adventures” with T’Ana. It was a cry for help.

teft , (edited )
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Shaxs probably assumed he would lower the blast shields like a normal person.

JWBananas ,
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I’m sorry Brad, I’m afraid I can’t do that.

FordBeeblebrox , (edited )

youtu.be/CztF7l7FIqg?si=d-1Mrmtf0E1SKioC

It’s not exactly unheard of technology. Boimler the nerd doesn’t know about solar radiation? The windows are not straight up glass

JWBananas ,
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Have you ever tried to think critically while your senses are being completely over-stimulated?

CeruleanRuin ,

That describes Boimler’s normal state even without the extra photons.

williams_482 ,
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So why did Boimler’s between-the-holodecks room have the (embarrassing) events of both adjacent holodecks reverberating through it? One of the core capabilities of a holodeck is the ability to manipulate where sounds appear to be coming from, which must include the ability to dampen sounds enormously. And if that technology exists, it should likely be available for ordinary walls between quarters too.

Is this just another case of Boimler not realizing that basic niceties (like viewscreen light filters) exist? And did both Freeman and T’Ana disable the audio dampening of their own holodecks?

Osa-Eris-Xero512 ,

It could just be that the holodeck noise dampening isn't working today, and sleep deprived Boimler doesn't think to just call engineering to go fix it?

LaggyKar ,
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Or he didn’t realize he needed to activate it, just like window shading

crazycanadianloon ,

It probably boils down to Boimler being a sad sack who still isn’t confident enough to stand up for himself.

FormerGameDev ,

It’s a California class. Low budget. :D

Tired8281 ,

Where can I get Moopsy as a ringtone for my phone?

simonzerafa ,
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@Tired8281 @ValueSubtracted

Here's a video clip with the Moopsy. Maybe extract the sounds yo need as a .MP3 ? 🙂

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Tired8281 ,

Dang it, now I need an MP3 editor for my Chromebook. Thanks!

danielquinn ,
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Here you go!

PorthosAteMyCheese ,

Legend!

Tired8281 ,

Now my phone is complete! TYSM!

NemoWuMing ,

Question about the mysterious ship that destroyed the Klingon and Romulan ships: is it a reference to something that was seen elsewhere or is it something new?

JWBananas ,
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Was it in one of the teasers or something? I swear it looks familiar, particularly the way it flips to fire.

williams_482 ,
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My first thought was Slave I from Star Wars, which doesn’t really lend itself to any Trekverse theories.

NemoWuMing ,

It looks familiar to me too. At first I thought about the time traveling shuttle in TNG A Matter of Time, or the tiny ship at the beginning of TNG Conundrum, but it’s not any of those.

ThrowawayInTheYear23 ,

Orville?

JWBananas ,
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If you turn it upside down, it’s definitely a whale.

JWBananas ,
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https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/7d9a26c7-b606-40e1-b580-b3812508f5c8.png

JWBananas ,
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Oh holy hell it’s freaking Mr. Bingle

LibraryLass ,

Looks new to me. If I had to guess it’s whoever picked up Badgey making their move.

WellFedHobo ,

The intro now has the whale probe? man, that scene gets spicier every time the Cerritos nopes out.

nxdefiant ,

I’m almost certain it’s related to the ship revealed at the end/beginning of e2/e3

samus12345 ,
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Doubtful, since the opening ships have never figured into the actual episodes. But ya never know!

StillPaisleyCat ,
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The Pakleds got added after becoming the big bad one season. So, hard to say.

samus12345 ,
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True, after being introduced.

JWBananas ,
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Wtf was that thing? It looked familiar.

ShranTheWaterPoloFan ,

It reminds me of the future Borg from Voyager.

JWBananas ,
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Veneers? Really?

Worf can get a new spine but they can’t regrow some teeth?

Hypersapien ,

In fairness, the new spine nearly killed him.

teft ,
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https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/5b65a895-82ab-49ed-9df6-fc1a385a8d1b.png

JWBananas ,
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Thanks, I hate it.

StillPaisleyCat ,
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I really hope this isn’t a permanent change. But with Lower Decks, who knows?

JWBananas ,
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In true Voyager style, the ship teeth will be fine in the next episode.

stant ,

I bet we see the Vulcan Lower Decks ship destroyed next. I wonder if Tlyn will find out

JWBananas ,
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Plot twist: the mystery foe won’t expect her shield upgrades, which will save the day. For this, she will be asked back, and she will hAvE tO mAkE a DiFfIcUlT cHoIcE aBoUt HeR fUtUrE.

Stormygeddon ,

I thought it was fine. The ending of Rutherford’s B-plot felt a little cheap.

Plus with Luvik around, I’m wondering what happened with Jet and if there’s going to be a gang of bitter lower deckers who don’t quite like the main four.

JWBananas ,
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It reminds me of the episode where Rutherford tried out all those different jobs on the ship because he wanted to do something new. He was afraid to let them know he didn’t like the work, but every time, they were super supportive.

ShranTheWaterPoloFan ,

I love that episode.

And the moral of “I can get stuff just by asking for it!” Is a real lesson.

FordBeeblebrox ,

“I can get stuff I deserve just by asking for it?”

Yeah man, you did the work and saved the ship, ask for your damn pip and better quarters already!

leviathan3k ,

…moopsy

Wooster ,
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The cutest Metroid ever!

Maolmi ,
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https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/0247345f-9305-4ac3-9df6-846e53fd1b05.png

samus12345 ,
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https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/rickandmorty/images/2/23/1662352207739805.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20220906034218

I’m Mr. Frundles!

ThrowawayInTheYear23 ,

youtu.be/aCbfMkh940Q?si=fO7_CPauvBNxjffS

LibraryLass ,

…Moopsy!..

e_t_ Admin , (edited )

Futurama's bone vampire is a large scary creature that's actually quite affectionate. Moopsy is a small, cute creature that's incredibly aggressive and cunning.

crazycanadianloon ,

Hmmm, I wasn’t quite sure about the Futurama reference at first because Bone Vampires/Moopsies aren’t exactly unique types of legendary creatures, but then Ransom said “Turns out humans are the most dangerous” which is a straight up lift from the Scary Door.

NuPNuA ,

It’s the Scary Mirror now.

crazycanadianloon ,

Scary Door

In B4 Piped Bot: piped.video/watch?v=bH10TsgozG8?si=9i_hCycJwVzm9q…

NuPNuA ,

youtu.be/hgAci77Oh88?si=kPzhv52P4d01slQJ

Nmyownworld ,
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I’m late to the party.

“Twovix.” Love it. From Jack’s advice to Shax at the start through the end, I enjoy this episode. Voyager becoming a museum was a great way to cram a lot of VOY escapades into an episode. I’m going to miss Mariner’s, Boimler’s, Tendi’s, and Rutherford’s time together in their hallway bunks, but the promotions are well deserved and bound to happen. I think T’Lyn is a great addition. The ending though, oh, no. Not Ma’ah and the Che’Ta’! I’m betting their demise (seeming? seems likely?) is because of William Boimler or Badgey. Maybe both of them. Keep in mind I’m terrible at guessing.

“I Have No Bones Yet I Must Flee.” Also love it. First and foremost, yes, I, a grown woman, want a Moopsy plush. Preferably one that says, “moopsy.” I was wondering if Mariner’s being promoted would go smoothly, and I was not disappointed with how it played out. For all his goofiness, I think Ransom is a great commanding officer. I’m pretty meh on the potential of Rutherford and Livik being adversaries. It seems out of character for Rutherford. But, LD continues to pleasantly surprise me, so I’m keeping an open mind. Boimler’s tribulations with his new quarters were funny, and very Boimler. With what happened to the Romulan ship at the beginning of the episode, I’m wondering if the whatever it is will take out a different ship every episode this season.

Sniffy ,

The big blob of merged people was so disturbing, glad this was in a cartoon and not live action. That would have been extra horrifying!

khaosworks ,
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Now I want to know how T’Lyn knows what Borg smell like.

milkisklim ,

I’m sure there’s reports. And as a Vulcan lady with superior olfactory senses, it is only logical to become aware of what smells may occur.

Continuumguy ,

Observations and thoughts as I watched (initially posted at the other place):

  • We begin with “Twovix”.
  • Holodeck waste material, AKA jizz, poop, and god knows what else.
  • Oh, hey, T’Lyn!
  • DAT VOYAGER THEME!
  • Oh, hey, the probe from the one with the whales!
  • Neelix cheese!
  • Shit did get freaky.
  • Oh shit, they’re going to Tuvix Billups and T’ana!
  • “Janeway straight-up murdered Tuvix.”
  • MACROVIRUS.
  • The Pike Thing, of course.
  • “Back in the 70s”
  • “Captain, I caution against socializing with the organism.”
  • So many VOY deep cuts.
  • “Holy shit. Janeway didn’t mess around.”
  • Macrovirus of Borg. And robotic warp salamander of Borg.
  • “Water, room temperature.”
  • This is definitely T’Ana’s side of T’Llups.
  • Oh god, they tuvixed the Matt the whale! Wait, what about Kimolu? Is he alright? Is he okay?
  • A Tuvixy meatball!
  • Heh, the real solution to the Tuvix conundrum was just to keep merging until it’s a nonsentient blob of meat so there is no murder, so to speak.
  • Oh god I just realized that we’re going to get so much Tuvixy fanart.
  • Bizarre series of Voyager-themed obstacles.
  • SHE GOT A PIP
  • Beckett Mariner receives the fate worse than death for her: promotion.
  • Nothing ever good happens “somewhere in Klingon space”
  • RIP Klingon lower-deckers.

And now, episode 2:

  • Heh, Romulan lower decks.
  • Goodbye, Romulan lower deckers!
  • Heh, those 80s workout stuff.
  • Oh, cool, Boimler still has his Tom Paris tplate!
  • Please tell me Denty has a Memory Alpha page.
  • The Nacelle is right there!
  • Non-botanicals
  • I have just met Moopsy but I would die for it.
  • Oddly enough, this is the SECOND time this year that a Jack Quaid character looked at a VERY bright light. Shoutout to my boy Richard Feynman, the one man crazy enough to watch a nuclear test without goggles.
  • Okay, I would no longer die for the moopsy.
  • Tucker Tubes! Good old Trip got stuff named for him!
  • The Ad Astra Per Aspera poster!
  • I do feel like Starfleet would have better soundproofing, but then again this is the Cerritos.
  • RIP corn guy.
  • LIVIK!
  • Aww, D’Vana Tendi giving orders.
  • Teeth as bread crumbs.
  • Heh, the humans really are the worst.
  • Hah, he could have just used the viewports.
  • Overall, I think I liked this second episode more, even though I loved the VOY fan service.
JWBananas , (edited )
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Teeth, as bread crumbs

Ransom, his teeth astrew

Later…

Ransom, his teeth anew

Rom ,
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T’illups using “Tuvix” as a verb was golden.

Also Captain Dr. Frigleeman definitely didn’t awaken anything in me I swear.

nxdefiant ,

That thing had serious mirror universe Emperor Georgiou energy.

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