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akai , to /kbin in Is there a way to save links and threads on Kbin?
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Upvoting something here on kbin actually saves it to your Favorites list

Spaghetti_Hitchens OP ,

Thanks for that info.

Hopefully something a little more curated will be possible.

binaryphile ,

If you have a Mastodon account as well, it has the bookmark feature, so in a pinch I can bookmark by boosting and then switching to my Masto account and bookmarking it there. You just need to follow your kbin account from your Masto account.

1chemistdown , to RedditMigration in Still yet another article listing Reddit alternatives, but surprisingly this one mentions both Lemmy & Kbin
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They totally miss that kbin federates with lemmy and mastodon whereas Lemmy doesn’t microblog. Also, the list 4chan as a Reddit alternative and 4chan is a cesspool.

d4rknusw1ld ,

I honestly have no idea what the difference beteeen kbin and lemmy is. I’m on Lemmy; what the hell is kbin?

1chemistdown ,
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Lemmy is a community led content aggregator similar Reddit. Mastodon is a microblogging platform similar to twitter.

Kbin combines the functionality of both and federates with both. Think of it as twidder or rettit. Insert a smash up yourself.

Lemmy was created by a couple pro-China pro-Putin “communists” and one of them is full on genocide of Uyghurs is not happening because they do not consider them people.

Kbin was created by someone who wanted a place for friends.

Do with that information what you will.

d4rknusw1ld ,

Wait a god damn minute… this is the first time I’ve heard of this China crap. Also… is there a kbin app yet? Benefit of Lemmy is useful apps.

Alto ,
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The Kbin API isn't public yet (though that's coming very soon), so as far as I'm aware there's no native Kbin apps as of yet. I know many Lemmy app developers have already said they're going to add Kbin compatibility once it's out, including the developer of Sync.

BionicHippo ,

There is an app that’s in beta testing for Kbin right now. It’s called Artemis and it’s really nice, even in the beta stage. I read there are plans for a public beta test soon.

1chemistdown ,
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@ArtemisApp is an app in beta right now by @harriet

As for lemmy. There is a lot to parse. It involves supporting tiananmen square massacre. Being kicked out of Reddit’s r/socialism for being too much for them in a militant way. That sub has pointed to many instances of support for genocide, how Russia is better off with Putin and how they’re defending their countries by killing any dissent. They’re known as tankies for their pro-tiananmen stance and how that saved China as a country.

Many defenders of lemmy say if that bothers you, just avoid their original instance or ones influenced/administered by them; but that both requires you to be aware of everything about them and all the lemmy instances,and it requires you to know that the instance you join has no further development by the creators of lemmy. Who updates the code? Who is the developer of this instance, and do they accept further stuff from the originators of this part of fedi.

Follow the rabbit hole

OpenStars OP ,
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Plus isn't there a link to donate to the original developers on all Lemmy instances? The "Support Lemmy" one I mean, unless an admin has modified the source code to remove that I suppose, and continue to do so each time they receive an update. That seems to bother many people as well, even being on a different instance that the original creators do not administer personally.

livus ,
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I'm talking to you from kbin.social right now.

It's like a lemmy but with some different features. Like, I can read and interact with mastodon users a bit from here as well.

OpenStars OP ,
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This article is posted from me with a kbin account, on a kbin magazine:-). The true beauty of the fediverse is that you need not care - like if I had a gmail account and you had a yahoo one, you could still receive the message despite being on entirely different servers.

Various Lemmy instances are part of the fediverse, and run the Lemmy code (various scripting languages - Rust, Actic, Diesel, Infero & Typescript). Each admin can do whatever, like modify the sourcecode, mess with their personal databases, etc., which can lead to different Lemmy instances using different versions of the sourcecode, which happened a few weeks ago and led to problems connecting when a new version became incompatible with the old.

Kbin is not a Lemmy instance though - it is a completely different implementation built from the ground up, in PHP & PostgreSQL - but it still uses ActivityPub so it can share with Lemmy the same as any Lemmy instance could. Meta (Facebook) will similarly implement ActivityPub in some manner and so also be able to communicate across the Fediverse. (Also as people are saying, Kbin also has implementation to share with Mastodon too while the Lemmy code does not.)

Unless an individual Lemmy - or a Kbin - instance wants that to not happen, i.e. to defederate, which is a whole other matter.

So:

  • instance = a particular machine (lemmy.ml or lemmy.world or beehaw or whatever);
  • Lemmy = code, or Kbin = different code, running on that instance, affecting what/how/etc.;
  • fediverse = everything that shares messages, like if one day a decade from now Reddit (may the spez have been fucked over MANY times before that day:-P) was forced to adopt ActivityPub and become a member in order to stay relevant, then it would become a part of it as well;
  • defederate = a specific blocking of messages from one instance to another (not necessary 2-way)

So if you thought of yourself as a Lemming/Lemmon/whatever before reading this comment, it is probably better to start thinking of yourself in terms of being a fedizen now - a member of the wider fediverse. You always were, you just did not know that yet:-).

Lemmylefty ,
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Offering 4chan up as an alternative to Reddit is like taking your cheat day from Doritos and ice cream to putting pubes you got from a Taco Bell toilet in your crack pipe.

1chemistdown ,
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Damn! I cannot get that imagery out of my mind; it’s suddenly seared onto my minds eye.

Well done

OpenStars OP ,
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Somebody who works at a company that produces articles like that mentioned how the sponsor of the list always goes at the top - hence why the next option works so hard to say that kbin is not as good as the original Lemmy - while everything else is placed there to make the original one look good.

Like, who wouldn't look fantastic when compared to 4chan!? :-P

cheese_greater ,

You certainly paint quite a picture

SJ0 ,

list 4chan as a Reddit alternative and 4chan is a cesspool.

Well yeah, it’s a Reddit alternative.

😜

1chemistdown ,
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Okay, yeah. There is the cesspool there too, but we’re comparing nuclear bombs to rotten apples here.

OpenStars OP ,
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Which one is which again? /s :-P

1chemistdown ,
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lol

Oliper202020 ,

I think reddit is the nuclear bomb🤣

OpenStars OP ,
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Reddit = rotten nuclear bomb it is then!:-P

Oliper202020 ,

Well its definitely not wrong though

Melpomene ,
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Well we do need somewhere for the creeps and such to go other than here, so yeah.

OpenStars OP ,
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Tbf I think I forgot the former myself. It is a rather nice feature in theory but I think one that I do not make much use of, personally.

I do not think I ever want to find out about the latter though, I mean first-hand:-P.

Blaze , to RedditMigration in Still yet another article listing Reddit alternatives, but surprisingly this one mentions both Lemmy & Kbin
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Nice!

baronvonj , to Fediverse in Why is it called Fediverse / Federation?
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The “central authority” is not an instance, but the ActivityPub protocol itself. Each instance is federated under ActivityPub, but is otherwise independent with their own platform and rules of interaction.

Pamasich OP ,
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I see, I do think a confederation fits much more with that reasoning, but I can understand it from that perspective.

backhdlp , to Linux in I want to move to Linux but I need to be able to access my apps that are not supported

As others have said, dual boot or VM works for Adobe Software. If you go with VMs, you should probably research GPU passthrough.

For syncing, I recommend Syncthing (syncthing.net).

You can play a lot of Steam games with Proton (check out protonDB for what works).

Also have you decided on a distro already?

SamXavia OP ,
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@backhdlp I haven't quite decided on a Distro as there are so many and I'm not sure if there's one more my style as of yet, I do like the center bar of Windows 11 & MacOS so might see what sort of Interface each one has (I know I could customize it from there what is fine, I can learn that later down the line).

Sync is more of a CloudStorage for my Video Edits as well as other things I know I need an Archive of but don't have enough physical space on the 15TB+ I have across my devices.

Steam & gaming is less worrying as I've tried out Linux previously and found most of the games I did play on there where better FPS than on Windows (This was about a year ago, so I am sure this has greatly improved with stuff like the SteamDeck now out).

Dual Boot won't really help in the long run but might be a good way for me to try out Linux on my PC before 100% committing to it.

a-man-from-earth ,
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You shouldn't base your choice of distro on the desktop configuration you want. Any major distro can give you any of the various desktop layouts. Sure, their defaults may be different, but Linux being so configurable means that any other layout or environment is just a few clicks away.

Just choose a major distro (so you get regular updates and support when needed), and go with it. Linux Mint is a popular choice for beginners. Debian, OpenSuse, Fedora are all good choices. Then find out how to set your desktop to the configuration you like.

SamXavia OP ,
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@a Thank you, I knew that you could change your Desktop I just didn't know how easy it would be to change it. But I will have to give it a good go and maybe use Linux Mint as heard some good things about it.

roofuskit , to men in Men do not seem like they are proud to be men, and this is detrimental to their mental health. We need to celebrate men instead of demonizing them.
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People should be proud of accomplishments, not of a participation prize.

furrowsofar , to Fediverse in Should we post on our local instances' communities to avoid making the Fediverse centralized?

Actually in terms of the threadiverse it makes more sense to join medium to large instances that align with your interests and values. That way most of your posts and subscriptions are local. Then it makes sense to subscribe to the best other communities that are missing from your instance. This reduces fragmentation which is good.

Keep in mind your suggesting promoting fragmentation which is just nuts. Building community scale is the biggest issue at the moment. Keep in mind too that as long as there are 7 or so major instances, the threadiverse is not centralized. It is just more cost and manpower effective to join and donate to larger instances rather then everyone run their own. Presumably there is an optimal instance size. I have no idea what that is.

Long run it would be good to have some tech that fights community fragmentation like the ability to aggregate communities. The other approach is just to let the dynamics choose these and let minor communities just get starved which seems to be the current approach. Maybe that is better, I have no idea.

altair222 , to Fediverse in Should we post on our local instances' communities to avoid making the Fediverse centralized?

That is usually a good idea. Find a community instance that is more up your alley, see if it has parallel communities and post on there alone, or on there as well.

1chemistdown , to men in Men do not seem like they are proud to be men, and this is detrimental to their mental health. We need to celebrate men instead of demonizing them.
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  • thestrugglingstudent ,

    Seeing someone who perceives a double standard and immediately calling them an incel runs counter to your argument. That basic lack of empathy is part of the problem. This is the kind of demonization this post is talking about.

    a-man-from-earth OP ,
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    We don't use incel as a slur here, nor do we use the toxic term 'toxic masculinity' unironically here. Comment removed.

    southsamurai , to RedditMigration in Yet another article about Reddit vs. Lemmy vs. others: "Discussing Three Reddit Alternatives After Reddit's API Decisions"
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    They included beehaw. But not as a lemmy instance. Facepalm

    fearout ,
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    No mention of kbin either

    Nemo ,

    or tildes

    OpenStars OP ,
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    Or Discuit.

    OpenStars OP ,
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    It almost seemed like it was written as a favor to Squabbles, except the owner of Squabbles himself did not seem to know about it until today.

    I strongly hesitated posting such shoddy journalism. Maybe I should have hesitated more strongly still:-). - e.g. no mention of Meta also? :-P

    Except I do find it interesting to hear more people discussing Reddit alternatives outside of Reddit and those alternatives themselves. The wider world may still not be aware of what Reddit even is, much less recent issues with it, but then there is the occasional article that mentions Lemmy and I think that is cool!:-D (even if as @fearout mentioned, it fails to mention Kbin, which I posted this from)

    fearout ,
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    I’m still waiting for some major news outlet to write a piece about Fediverse in general. It’s odd that it’s either glossed over in one sentence or not even mentioned at all.

    OpenStars OP ,
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    Step 1: brace yourself, go get your puke bucket.

    Step 2: (wait, are you sure that you have your puke bucket handy? warning, there are PICTURES in this thing!) Now, read this.

    Step 3: go clean your puke bucket. You are welcome.

    Warning: those who may be offended by seeing a picture of the Zuck and the Musk - combined with NO MENTION WHATSOEVER OF LEMMY (or Beehaw, or Kbin, etc.) on an article ostensibly explaining "the fediverse", may be advised to not read this little gem.

    Edit: but it is CBC News, which iirc is mainstream?

    fearout ,
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    Yeah, not mentioning even a single instance when writing about Fediverse is pretty shit journalism. I was expecting something much worse after reading your preparation steps though :) At least factually it’s not really incorrect.

    OpenStars OP ,
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    (It was the pictures that made that effect for me - yup, Zuck & Musk are all that matter, in the end)

    Nemo ,

    And they definitely meant risqué in that last paragraph, right?

    OpenStars OP ,
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    I would not go that far as to say that with 100% certainty. The tagline says:

    Information Security Analyst at Bank of America who enjoys writing, programming, and running in my spare time.

    So they legit could have meant risky as in piracy or security considerations, like maybe Torrenting? On the other hand, is Beehaw not welcoming to those, like somehow being friendly means not being able to discuss more technical security issues?

    So I suspect you are correct:-).

    thingsiplay ,
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    @southsamurai I'm currently cringing.

    holo_nexus , to Politics in Discussion: Would bringing back the Civilian Conservation Corp Program be benefecial in the US?
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    CCC, WPA, or any semblance of the alphabet soup of new deal programs focused on improving the infrastructure and getting people to work is something I believe this country desperately needs. For all the reasons you stated but another important factor; it can help Americans get a new found sense of pride in their country and a sense of community.

    I remember reading about how the new deal programs boosted pride among Americans who took part in these programs. A sense of pride that was needed to fight WWII.

    While a modern version of this would be amazing, I can’t help but show the same skepticism that has been said here in regards to corruption and issues that would inevitable come up. It’s a totally different political landscape than it was in 1933.

    deegeese , to Fediverse in The Fediverse needs a popular agent
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    Only celeb I miss from Twitter is dril.

    borkcorkedforks , to Politics in Discussion: Would bringing back the Civilian Conservation Corp Program be benefecial in the US?

    Yes, a lot of infrastructure is fucked and needs replacing. Bridges, pipes, roads, dams, energy grids, all of it. We also need a lot of new infrastructure to have renewable energy and prepare for climate change related problems.

    The program could also help people that need work or are under employed. It may be a question as to how much of an improvement this work might be for the under employed but any work would probably be better for the unemployed.

    Mane25 , to RedditMigration in How about participating in /r/Place and promoting the fediverse?

    It could so easily be manipulated by Reddit in their favour - I can just imagine admins fixing themselves extra pixels so our areas get mysteriously vandalised. It’s their game and their rules I think it’s best to just stay out of it.

    Pandantic ,
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    They they totally did this last time, and for something dumb too. Every post calling them out was also removed.

    quirzle ,
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    and for something dumb too

    What something was that?

    Pandantic ,
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    I believe it was this cat: pixelated cat loaf in orange and white

    see this video or this post for more.

    admin Chtorrr was the one using his power (to keep the canvas “safe for everyone”) to draw a cat.

    quirzle ,
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    Wow, what shitty behavior and shitty response in that post. The more interaction with reddit admins I witness, the happier I am with my decision to stop using the site.

    TheVHSWizard ,

    Yeah this whole thing just feels like a huge trap for them to try and lure people back in. "Hey remember how fun r/place was? We're doing it again. Come on back! Please clap."

    rodbiren , to Politics in Discussion: Would bringing back the Civilian Conservation Corp Program be benefecial in the US?

    My cynical view is that, even with the best intentions, this would become a shell of a service that somehow exploits workers for the benefit of the rich. I feel like someone would weasel in language to again widdle away the native populations land or rights.

    I would love to pretend I live in a world where I trust the government enough to do something like this, because we all recognize the need for so many activities. Thousands of hands can make light work of many things.

    Upvotes_Kills_Birds OP ,
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    I really like your comment that thousands of hands can make light work of many things. I realize that's where my position on the mayter was; Were aware of so many infrastructure problems going on and systems failing and we continue to react instead of stop the problem at it source to stop it from escalating.

    If we don't upgrade our electrical grid to account for more AC load that WILL increase with climate change were in for a very bad time littered with preventable deaths.

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