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Rabbithole OP , (edited ) to RedditMigration in Reddit threatens the mods of r/CyberpunkGame (the main subreddit for Cyberpunk 2077). Mods decide to go down in a blaze of glory, whole sub agrees.

The mod's response to Reddit, in case people don't want to go there:

According to them, your favourite subreddits going NSFW is too much for you to understand. The infamous Mod Code of Conduct messaged us, demanding we switch back, because “you’re likely confused by all the NSFW content you’ve been seeing”.

They didn’t allow us to reply, so we couldn’t explain that this is a subreddit for an 18+ game, nor has any of our content changed. This subreddit should have been NSFW already, but we’d never thought to change it until recently.

Until we change it back we’re in violation of Reddit’s sitewide rules. We’re not going to change it back, because this is a sexually explicit game, and also fuck them.

If we’re removed at least we got to go out on an fantastically fun flair event (don’t worry this won’t stop your flair from being added I promise), and if this sub changes back from NSFW then you know you’re no longer in control of it.

Rest assured; we have 77 fans all over Reddit, with r/lowsodiumcyberpunk being a decent fall back. We’ve never worked together on anything, but we’ve made an effort to stay on good terms with one another, and I trust them to take care of you all.

Edit: this has hit r/all choombas so assume there are a lot of people here just to feed on the drama

Some time after posting this here, the mods added a second edit:

Edit: since hitting r/all there have been a bunch of accounts created in the last month attacking us and defending Reddit admins with a vigour I’ve never seen before. That seems suspicious, at the very least

So it seems that someone (probably Reddit themselves) caught wind of this and attempted to astroturf it with bots... Now who's recently been caught doing that?

See c4's post below for a Teddit link of the whole thread: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/144077/Reddit-threatens-the-mods-of-r-CyberpunkGame-the-main-subreddit-for#entry-comment-559801

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@kbin.social avatar

Edit: this has hit r/all choombas so assume there are a lot of people here just to feed on the drama

Hehe, and also not there too:-).

Madison_rogue , (edited )
@Madison_rogue@kbin.social avatar

But has it reached r/SubredditDrama?

It has not. SRD is slacking these days.

Volkditty ,

SRD enthusiasts probably all OD'd in the last couple weeks.

Entropywins ,
@Entropywins@kbin.social avatar

It sounds like it's just reddit drama at this point no more subreddit...

Madison_rogue ,
@Madison_rogue@kbin.social avatar

Trust me, before I deleted my account there were so many users in the sub salivating at all the unfolding drama. While they didn't participate in the blackout, I wonder how many migrated to Fedi. Might indicate why there isn't as much activity as I remember.

Rabbithole OP , (edited )

SRD have been having a goddamn feeding frenzy the past few weeks.

But I could definitely see some of them getting burned out from excess joy. :D

rustyfish ,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

I am one of them. Only that I wallowed in the drama AND THEN participated in the protests.

I lurk there once in a while and yes, it is fucking dead. That whole sub just fell dead with the only active posts not even being drama at all.

Compare it what it looked like two months ago. Back then I thought that sub would be the last one to still stand, before it too imploded. But no! Everyone who made that sub so funny already migrated here (love y’all, you beautiful fucks) and all that’s left are these sad excuses of posters and commenters.

Madison_rogue ,
@Madison_rogue@kbin.social avatar

That whole sub just fell dead with the only active posts not even being drama at all.

After all that hype of how dramatic things would be...yesterday half a dozen posts down on the front page and the posts are 2 days old. Buckets and buckets of popcorn all laid waste...a shell of what it once was...all the buttery goodness is lost in time...like tears in rain.

FaceDeer ,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

For some reason /r/SubredditDrama is awash in admin bootlickers these days. Makes the threads on these subjects rather unfun to read.

Rhabuko ,
@Rhabuko@feddit.de avatar

They stayed open during the blackout and the bootlickers used the place to complain about the protests. And when the blackout ended, the bootlickers never left …

Socsa ,

SRD has revealed themselves to be largely bootlickers in all this.

c4 ,
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Rabbithole OP ,

Thank you. I should have done that myself tbh.

JanoRis ,

I think you still can

Rabbithole OP ,

I didn't want to because it felt like stealing c4's post, so I just upvoted and boosted it instead.

Valid point though, I edited the main post so that it links to their comment now.

Xeelee ,
@Xeelee@kbin.social avatar

Wow, I've never heard of Teddit. I wonder how long they will still be around.

palordrolap ,

There's also libreddit, which seems to be an entirely separate project to teddit. Kind of like the Federation, it's software anyone can run and there are quite a few instances out there

TheRazorX ,

My favorite part is the accuracy of all the admin boot licking accounts in the comments never having actually taken part in said subreddit.

Yeah, not sus at all. /s

McBinary , to RedditMigration in Reddit threatens the mods of r/CyberpunkGame (the main subreddit for Cyberpunk 2077). Mods decide to go down in a blaze of glory, whole sub agrees.
@McBinary@kbin.social avatar

They're not fans of Corpos in the cyberpunk community. What a shocker!

Madison_rogue ,
@Madison_rogue@kbin.social avatar

Spez wishes he were as nefarious as Arasaka. It's tough being Steve; where even fictional corpos make him look like he's in Romper Room.

stopthatgirl7 , to RedditMigration in Reddit threatens the mods of r/CyberpunkGame (the main subreddit for Cyberpunk 2077). Mods decide to go down in a blaze of glory, whole sub agrees.
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

R/pics is also refusing to go down without a fight, and I’m kind of loving watching all this from the sidelines.

Reddit already got caught using ChatGPT to astroturf in posts supporting the admins, so I wonder if some of the people the mods mentioned popping in for drama are actually ChatGPT.

ArugulaZ ,
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

"I love everything that STEVE HUFFMAN is doing with REDDIT and will stand behind him in any endeavor. In addendum, he does not look like a crack-addicted lemur. End statement. Please insert coin to continue."

NotMyOldRedditName ,

inserts coin

PupBiru ,
@PupBiru@kbin.social avatar

vibrates vigorously

Madison_rogue ,
@Madison_rogue@kbin.social avatar

feeds that machine like I'm playing Dragon's Lair in the 80's very poorly

Gargleblaster ,
@Gargleblaster@kbin.social avatar

Dragon's Lair, when you look back on it, was a corporate grab in the arcade world. Disney-level graphics when all the other games were 8-bit, and the worst gameplay ever in an arcade game...because it was made by someone who'd never set foot in an arcade.

The only competition it has for worst came later when that hologram game came later where you're a cowboy shooting...Native Americans. Another turd that was all graphics and nothing else.

ArugulaZ ,
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

Sega's Time Traveller. It was quickly replaced with Holosseum, which wasn't much better, but at least it was playable. Sort of. (It's the most claustrophobic fighting game I've ever played.)

Rabbithole OP ,

God, I remember that one... Yeah, bad game, but... Holograms!? I lost much money there, to my shame. 0_o

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

It’s funnier than that.

https://i.imgur.com/4sIiHZ6.jpg

ArugulaZ ,
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

Oh man, you're right! They literally tricked the AI into revealing itself! I love it!

ArugulaZ ,
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

"You see a turtle in the middle of the road, lying upside down. Do you offer it assistance, or leave it to die?"

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

As an artificial intelligence, I do not have a physical presence in the world, and as such, I can't interact with a turtle or any other physical object.

However, if you find yourself in a situation where you encounter a turtle in distress, it would be good to help if it's safe to do so. Here's how you might assist an upside-down turtle:

  1. Ensure your safety first: Before you decide to help the turtle, make sure it's safe for you to do so. Avoid risking your life or causing accidents. Also, some turtles can bite or scratch, so handle with care.
  2. Gently flip it over: Approach the turtle slowly so you don't scare it, then gently flip it back onto its feet. Try to handle it as little as possible to minimize stress.
  3. Move it in the direction it was heading: If the turtle was crossing the road, carry it across to the other side in the direction it was already going. Turtles are often very determined and will try to continue in the same direction if put back in the same spot.
  4. Wash your hands: Turtles can carry diseases like salmonella, so make sure to wash your hands thoroughly after handling them.

Please note that it's generally better not to interfere with wildlife unless it's necessary. Turtles and other animals have their own behaviors and mechanisms to survive. In some places, it's even illegal to handle certain species without a permit. When in doubt, contact a local wildlife rescue or animal control agency for advice.

Rabbithole OP ,

Bad transformer!

CIA_chatbot ,

It’s sad how archaic these public bots are, you would never catch me making that kind of mistake

Jackolantern ,

Using gpt4 I see

metaStatic ,

Let me tell you about my mother

AmidFuror ,

Turtle? What's that?

Demiurge ,
@Demiurge@kbin.social avatar

It´s the second time I´m seeing bots being baited like this and it´s fucking hilarious. Is there someone compiling these? I'm dying

Rabbithole OP ,

Amusingly enough: r/asalanguagemodel.

palordrolap ,

I can't help but think of 4chan's unofficial tagline of "trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls".

The joke used to be that "everyone on Reddit is a bot except you", but as that has become more a reality than a joke, it's morphed into "text-AIs trolling text-AIs trolling text-AIs".

A shame it doesn't [t]roll off the tongue quite as nicely.

Am I also a large language model? Let me answer that with another question:

Do you remember that bit in The Matrix Reloaded where Agent Smith occupies Bane out in "reality"?

Haha. Nothing like that. I'm human. Honest.

Myriad ,

Nice try bot.

palordrolap ,

My programmer needs a kicking because the [unrepeatable] gave me anxiety.

PsychedSy ,

I’ve taken acid then tried to use reddit in the morning. I felt like everyone was a bot.

littlebluespark ,
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

You took acid in the morning? Do you believe in nothing?

NoIWontPickaName ,

What do you do? Stay up all night and look like a twacked out dishwasher that just got off a split double?

GreenCrush ,
@GreenCrush@lemmy.world avatar

I’d say the morning is the best time to take acid. You can’t sleep on it anyway. So spend your 12 hours of happy bliss doing something fun and productive, maybe outside in the fresh air. It’s probably good for your mental health to have a fun day out on acid.

ArugulaZ ,
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

TWELVE? I'm lucky if I get four hours out of a 10mg dose of marijuana. Then again, I'm not hallucinating for twelve hours...

doublejay3000 ,
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thats quite incredible

capy_bara ,

LMAOOOO

fmstrat ,

This is fake. Admitted by user.

Niello ,

Do you happen to have the link to that part?

Sepix ,

this is the funniest thing i've seen ... all year <3

Jackolantern ,

Oh my God lmao! Is that actually true?

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

“As a gay black Republican AI language program…”

FixedFun ,
@FixedFun@kbin.social avatar

"As AI model I can't dickride on administrators, please contact Open AI for more information."

WhatASave , to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins

Gold originally was fine imo. Then it got out of control with so many different medals, some free, some cheap, etc. They made it so confusing and basically every post on the front page had some sort of award. They made it confusing and cluttered… At least they realized it was dumb.

Kill_joy ,
@Kill_joy@kbin.social avatar

I used RIF for 11 years. First I'm hearing about awards. Only ever knew about gold.. thought Reddit silver was a cutesy little joke for redditors.

Razputinsgirth ,

I mean I did too but I saw actual Reddit other place a few times lol

thanevim ,

I remember at one point, Talklittle mentioned the addition of rewards, and how he was against them, which was convenient since Reddit didn't give third party apps access to them in the first place. I know at one point I was able to buy gold in RiF, but that was gone the moment that Reddit introduced all the other bullshit rewards.

STUPIDVIPGUY ,

Reddit silver started as a joke but was added as a free award once they expanded the system.

Computerchairgeneral , to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins

Not sure why this is a top priority right now, but I look forward to hearing about whatever horrible idea they implement to replace awards and coins.

stopthatgirl7 , to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

So they’re getting rid of coins and awards, but don’t have any kind of replacement actually planned yet?

They should have held off until they knew what the replacement would be. As it is, they’re yanking something that made Reddit unique for…what, exactly?

HipPriest ,

The replacement is to pay people with actual money per upvotes awards etc according to some code that was spotted recently

Great huh? That's really going to improve the quality of their content and their profitability... 🙄

EDIT https://www.androidauthority.com/reddit-contributor-program-3343397/

Rhodin ,
@Rhodin@kbin.social avatar

Because paying people to post worked so well for Quora…

HipPriest ,

Quora is an impeccable font of online knowledge and we should be grateful for bwahaha no I can't even...

Basically the amount of karma farming that already happens on Reddit is going to quadruple. And yeah it's going to be a) on the more 'serious' questions like Quora and b) on the more AITA or Confessions posts 'oh you guys have helped me so much, of you can upvote me and give me some awards it'll really help get my life on track'

Part of me couldn't believe they'd actually introduce this but in light of everything this year, whatever. Because what else could benefit Reddit ....oh yeah - grifters!

If they want to add fuel to the fire that's burning down the house fine. I'm over at Kbin. I'm staying.

My only regret is there's some really great health support communities there and I hope they can be allowed to live in peace because I don't think they'll feasibly migrate.

Locuralacura ,

I’m only on reddit for a few select, very specific communities. If I ever find a replacement it’s over. Help with Immigration laws, teach practices, language learning ECT. I’m thinking maybe I’d like to start the teachers group over here.

bradorsomething ,

That’s how this happens. The community is the value, not the platform. Once a critical mass crosses over, the same community can continue.

Locuralacura ,

I definitely don’t have time to moderate, I barely have time to scan headlines.

jon ,

Just curious, what happened there?

itsnotlupus ,

Last I checked, there were at least 3 subreddits where cryptocurrency is being handed out regularly to active participants.
They’re called “Community Points”, and get a custom name for each sub (“moons” in /r/cryptocurrency, “donuts” in /r/ethtrader, and “bricks” in /r/fortniteBR.)

I don’t know how the other subs fared, but /r/cryptocurrency became noticeably gamed by actors attempting to maximize their financial gains.

So… I guess it’s gonna be awesome.

Hegar ,
@Hegar@kbin.social avatar

/r/cryptocurrency became noticeably gamed by actors attempting to maximize their financial gains.

I can't tell if that's life imitating art or vice versa but it made me giggle!

stopthatgirl7 ,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

And oh look, it’s only available for people in the US! Because only Americans know things, amirite? 🙄

All they had to do was do nothing.

Acetanilide ,

Is there a bin for usdefaultism yet?

Ragnell ,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

For a minute I thought you meant trashbin.

Acetanilide ,

😬😬

HipPriest ,

It's certainly worth paying to hear American views over the rest of the worlds I would say. Reddit is on to a winner with that one for sure. American Reddit users like u/spez are so wise while we are so stupid.

Sailor_jets ,
@Sailor_jets@sh.itjust.works avatar

Reddit is an American website… IDK why this would surprise anyone.

abff08f4813c ,

A company headquartered in the US but it's a website that has a presence in many countries, including the EU.

Maybe not surprising, but they are probably shortchanging themselves by not allowing folks from abroad to contribute into the program. USians aren't the only content creators.

mightysashiman ,
@mightysashiman@kbin.social avatar

but the mentality of the whole platform is very USian centric nevertheless.

abff08f4813c ,

Sure, and that's a problem. r/politics was too US centric which eventually drove the creation of other subs like r/animie_titties

There are (or were) a lot of corners that were an exception to the rule, for example I don't think that anyone would argue that r/de was very USian.

Ragnell ,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

They're willing to pay idiots to ramble on but they aren't willing to pay international lawyers to straighten out all the paperwork so they can do this outside the US.

BananaTrifleViolin ,

Reddit really is done. This will drive spam and discourage people posting original content as they will see it stolen and reposted by the karma farming parts of reddit. They already flood communities with crap; reddit seems to just be taking another giant crap on the moderators who will have to deal with the tide of people trying to manipulate the new system for financial gain.

The best content on Reddit is not by "top contributors" whoever they may be. It's the random helpful posts that you stumble across or find on Internet seaches, or the thought provoking posts and comments that push back against the hive mind. Generally I find most (not all but most) of the up voted and awarded content to be trash or low value. Moving to financially incentivise that show Reddit really don't understand their own site.

gornar ,
@gornar@lemmy.world avatar

I actually improved my reddit experience back in the day by blocking the top creators and checking that top list every few months to make sure it was current. Instantly better!

McBinary ,
@McBinary@kbin.social avatar

Applying gold and awards will hold posts on the frontpage even if they're downvoted to oblivion. They're likely getting rid of them as a way of manipulating the narrative.

abff08f4813c , to RedditMigration in r/TIHI has been banned for being unmoderated.

To all the folks saying that reddit couldn't replace the mods, that it was too big an effort, that they couldn't run a big sub all by themselves, I have only one thing to say to you.

You were right.

bionicjoey ,

Thanks, I hate being right.

NotTheOnlyGamer ,
@NotTheOnlyGamer@kbin.social avatar

I'm sure users will step forward if they care. Otherwise, it's just a campaign optimization at work. Limit the breadth of organic content to deepen the brand-friendly content and push more paid media into the feed.

abff08f4813c ,

I'm sure users will step forward if they care.

This is the part I didn't quite get. Like I am sure that there were users who requested this sub in r/redditrequest after r/TIHI became unmoderated.

For some reason I don't understand, these requests did not pan out and it ended up getting shut down instead.

At the very least, users stepping forward doesn't seem to be enough on its own.

CrazyEddie041 ,
@CrazyEddie041@kbin.social avatar

If I had to guess, there are too many users who would become appointed as moderators, then just shut down the subreddit again. The admins need time to filter through the applications to find the genuine bootlickers.

CarbonIceDragon ,
@CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social avatar

From the one time I tried requesting a sub there, they don’t just let someone have a sub if they ask and it’d be banned otherwise, they probably won’t give it to you if you don’t have mod experience for example (the reason I didn’t get the niche sub I was trying to revive, which is reasonable enough), or if they feel that what experience you do have isn’t enough that you’d likely be able to handle the particular sub. TIHI is a big sub, so they’d not just be looking for any random volunteer, it’d have to be someone experienced with moderating sizable subs, probably. And those people are, well, exactly the kind of people angry with reddit right now.

hypelightfly ,

Reddit gave the snackexchange subreddit to someone who had no mod experience and hadn't participated in the sub for years. The person claims they didn't even ask for the position and only asked for the head mod to be removed. Reddit removed the top mod and made the person top mod.

FriendOfFalcons ,

Reddit is really on their way to become the next facebook.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

Thing is, people stay on Facebook because their friends and family are on Facebook. Reddit is far more anonymous and therefore has far less inertia.

Thorned_Rose ,

I would drop kick FB in a heart beat if it wasn't for that shitty platform being my only means of communication with some family and friends. WTF happened to email and phone calls/txt jesus.

maxxxxpower ,

If any of my friends told me they’d only use FB for communication, they would be my friend no longer.

Thorned_Rose ,

I wish I could do that. But I'm disabled which is isolating by itself but also makes maintaining friendships difficult let alone making new friends.

So unfortunately the few friends I do have are firmly entrenched in FB and I have little recourse to make more friends. They're good people. Genuinely good people so I don't want to ditch them anyway, they've just been wicked into social media addiction and entrapment the same way many have been.

IninewCrow , to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins
@IninewCrow@kbin.social avatar

I think part of it is about retention .... retaining all those users, especially those with high karma levels (or at least users who believe they have high karma) from abandoning the site and ending their accounts.

I'm currently in the process of ending my four accounts I have on reddit. Two of them are over 100,000 in karma and when I read this post, the very first thing that popped into my mind was .... HOW MUCH WILL MY ACCOUNTS BE WORTH?

So it's now making me think ... if I can just keep up my account for another while, maybe I can cash in on all that karma I accumulated.

I am sure that many other redditors are thinking the same. The way this reddit admin posted the info is really weird too ... it sounded like some salesman just enticing people into an idea but not fully being able to say much about it and instead making vague suggestions that something big is coming in the future.

I know a sales job when I see one .... and this is a sales job. Many people will fall for it ... if not just to hang on to see if they can at least cash in our something ... anything when the announcement happens.

Say or think what you want about me ... but I'm ending this relationship and deleting my accounts ... I don't trust big corporations to say or do anything that might give me a chance at anything. Any action they elicit from me or any user will be gamed to only benefit them. If not enough people figure that out ... reddit will make bank in the short term and that is all they are counting on.

waterbogan ,

I think part of it is about retention … retaining all those users, especially those with high karma levels (or at least users who believe they have high karma) from abandoning the site and ending their accounts.>

If they were actually serious about retention of high karma users they could at least consider not suspending/ banning such users without a very good reason. My previous account on there was nuked for reasons I dont understand to this day, I would have happily stayed on otherwise. I have a temporary account there now which I had no intention of putting any money into - well now the one reason i might have been tempted to do so is going away anyway.

The award/ coin system was great, and I spent a bit of money on it, it was also a very good way to pay for or be paid for small international transactions - I assisted a few people with minor things and they paid my costs such as they were with reddit coin, saving them and me international bank transaction fees. I also liked rewarding intelligent and incisive comments that needed recognition as such.

Reddit really is going down the shitter

MelancholikhPatata , to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins
@MelancholikhPatata@kbin.social avatar

Reddit's self-destruction is quite impressive, I'm not going to lie

Gutotito , to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins
@Gutotito@kbin.social avatar

Was anyone actually spending money on that crap?

GrossGhost ,
@GrossGhost@kbin.social avatar

Yes haha. Constantly. I wouldn't be surprised if they're happy to be rid of the type of user who would move to the fediverse anyway. Maybe that was their plan all along.

EricKendrick ,
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Yep, and was proud to - let me support Reddit and good contributors.

I wonder if the exodus of people like myself brought this on - the drop in awards given may have been significant indicator or less engagement, so needed to muddy the waters?

zalack ,
@zalack@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, I bought gold a few times. I had no problem with "this content was so good it inspired me to give back a little to the free service we're all using."

I wouldn't mind some equivalent for the fediverse honestly. Let me donate to the home server of a user who's comment I thought was especially good.

I know you can donate directly, but I do think there was something about also making another user's day that felt good about the Gold system. The service gets some fuel in the tank and the comment author gets a little boost to their mood. It was nice.

I agree it got way too out of hand when they moved beyond Gold though.

FuckFashMods ,

Reddit used to fund all their servers with it and had a gold goal.

itscozydownhere ,
@itscozydownhere@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah the same that buy skins in games

But honestly, good. It’s those people that keep the stuff free for the others

joelfromaus , to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins
@joelfromaus@aussie.zone avatar

One thing I’ve seen a lot of is comments wishing that Lemmy/Kbin had support for some sort of gilding. So it’s obviously a feature that people enjoyed using which means Reddit just has to enshittify it. This is the way.

nicetriangle ,
@nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

Honestly it’d be kinda nice for Lenny/Kbin instances to help keep the servers running without having to do something like ads.

joelfromaus ,
@joelfromaus@aussie.zone avatar

Absolutely! Server donations are good for a single instance but I think a service that allows users to purchase gold/awards and awards the particular instance (with funds) that they get used on would help fund the Fediverse as a whole. I imagine implementing something like that would not be simple but anything is better than injecting ads.

nicetriangle ,
@nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

Yeah I’m already donating via “buy me a coffee” might as well make it fun to do.

HipPriest ,

I think it should be totally anonymous though because otherwise you go down the road of users with special avatars and good knows what

thanevim ,

implementing something like that would not be simple

Especially with the idea that an instance a user calls home/registered on would have to be ok with allowing a donation link to go to the instance that the user you're "gilding" is on

density ,
@density@kbin.social avatar

let's inventing banking again! the bitcoin people are having so much fun doing that.

kunic ,
@kunic@kbin.social avatar

Precisely. They were a fun thing to give out, and directly helped to pay for server time. I even liked how Reddit would tell you how much server time your awards gave to Reddit (which I think they've removed?).

tjhart85 ,
@tjhart85@kbin.social avatar

100%, but the Federated nature would make this difficult, I'd imagine.

I'd love a way to simultaneously:

  • show someone I appreciate their comment
  • Help support an instance
  • Help support KBin development

But, outside of crypto, I don't see an easy way to make that happen and doing it through crypto would bring out the crypto bros and mega-anti crypto joe's in about equal numbers, which would suck (plus, who's to say that an instance admin even wants to deal with crypto to collect a few bucks).

livus ,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

Kbin already has this covered. We can pay monthly to keep servers running via

Patreon and Liberapay.

@Ernest has transferred the existing Buy Me A Coffee money over to the server fund and from this point on we really can buy him a beer via Buy Me A Coffee which is cool!

neshient ,

any particular reason why there are 2 monthly payment options?

livus ,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

I'm not Ernest but my guess is it gives us greater flexibility?

Like, some of us are already active on one or the other of those platforms, plus between them there are lots of different options for amount. I'd never heard of Liberapay but I like how it's a non-profit.

density ,
@density@kbin.social avatar

Well there are 49 subscribed people on patreon totaling $170/month. Lots of people probably already have accounts set up which makes it a very low threshold to join.

Meanwhile on librepay, arguably more philosophically suitable, there are 11 subscribers totaling $13/month.

Man, considering how many people I have seen saying how great it is to be able to pay, and asserting they are making donations, those are very low numbers.

neshient ,

Could be because it is less circulated. I had seen the coffee option previously but didn't realise the other 2 options had been setup until I came across this comment.

livus ,
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I think @neshient is likely to be right. IIRC something like 800 people have been donating via Buy Me A Coffee.

NekoKamiGuru ,
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Do not imagine for an instant that if Lemmy/Kbin becomes like Reddit and embraces enshitification that the community will not walk again.

falsem ,

That was the original pitch for gold on Reddit.

metalingus , to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins

Was there any indication something like this was coming?

Also, I only learned last 1-2 months during the API fiasco that Reddit had some weird NFT thing going on.. Are they just trying to find anything that will stick?

Chozo ,

It's rumored that Reddit is about to launch a new "creator program" that will pay Redditors for high-karma activity on the site. This change is probably meant to accommodate this new feature.

nicetriangle ,
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Sounds like they’re desperate to keep power users on board

VulcanSphere ,
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All for the "engagement rate" to be presented during IPO.

mrbubblesort ,
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Instead what they'll get is a metric shitton of bots trying to game the system, further tanking the site

density ,
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how is paying people going to "keep them profit oriented til profits arrive"?

how could they even have the cashflow to support that? money isn't free anymore

Chozo ,

how could they even have the cashflow to support that?

I'm guessing new deals with advertisers. These changes will incentivize more neutral, advertiser-friendly comments on their platform. I imagine that's going to make them more lucrative to advertisers going forward, so that their ads are shown next to harmless memes instead of bad-faith political arguments in cat pic subreddits.

fearout , to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins
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Yeah, just got an email from them stating that (I still have premium from being guilded). Great company management as always.

“Users are leaving? I have an idea! Let’s nuke their coins, that’ll bring them back!”

InEnduringGrowStrong ,

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Grimlo9ic , to RedditMigration in Reddit threatens the mods of r/CyberpunkGame (the main subreddit for Cyberpunk 2077). Mods decide to go down in a blaze of glory, whole sub agrees.
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I'll be honest I was kinda waiting for r/CyberpunkGame to do this, given the lean of the game (even if you went with the most Corpo-ish ending, it was still kinda anti-Corpo). Good on them for taking a stand.

Madison_rogue ,
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As a nomad, I finished the game leaving Night City with the Aldercados & Judy. Seemed the best ending...haven't tried the others yet. I think that's the most anti-corpo ending you get out of the game.

R00bot ,
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My first ending I killed myself because I didn’t understand the two options it gave me. Option I selected was something like “end it” and I thought it meant like go to the final fight 💀

Grimlo9ic ,
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The other endings are definitely worth going through! Thematically, I think the secret ending is actually the most possible to be canon (i.e., going out for all time in a blaze of glory), but in terms of character development, I agree, The Star ending with Judy and Panam is the most cohesive.

At least until we get Phantom Liberty. From the trailers, it definitely looks like there's gonna be a continuation or development in V's story. And I don't want to read too much into it, but if you remember the base game's launch, almost all the cinematics/graphic banners featured a male V. But he was switched out for female V in the marketing of the game sometime during CP2077's great fiasco. It's been all female V, even up to now.

Madison_rogue ,
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Speaking about Phantom Liberty it reminds me. I finished the game prior to the patch that included items about David. Do you know if the events of Edgerunner are supposed to occur canonically during the events V's experiences, or afterwards?

Grimlo9ic ,
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The popular theory is that Edgerunners takes place in 2076, a year before the events of the game.

Nollij , to RedditMigration in Reddit threatens the mods of r/CyberpunkGame (the main subreddit for Cyberpunk 2077). Mods decide to go down in a blaze of glory, whole sub agrees.

The number of people willing to die on this hill is actually quite surprising, and in a good way. So many people have made peace with leaving their subs, their mod powers, and even their entire Reddit accounts behind to fuck over that piece of shit running the place.

stopthatgirl7 ,
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Never underestimate the power of spite.

greatwhitebuffalo41 ,
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My mod team and I are basically not doing any modding. Whatever was in place is still in place, about once a week I clean the mod queue. None of us really login anymore. It’ll eventually become a dumpster fire but so far, it’s not too terrible from what I can see. We used to all be on there checking the top posts and making sure they didn’t violate the rules but, not anymore.

BarbecueCowboy ,

A lot of us had kind of been looking forward to it honestly.

One common thread I've seen with nearly every mod post stating that they're probably going out is a general sense of relief.

samus12345 ,
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I’ve been wanting to leave Reddit since the fascists were allowed to have a platform there uncontested. This naked utter contempt for the users and mods of the site was the push I needed to finally do so. And whaddaya know, it’s people who have similar values to me that left, while the bootlickers stayed. Win-win!

OpenStars ,
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They'll vent their frustration at the world bots, who'll take it and engage right back at them, giving them as much attention as they want. Reddit = babysitter service, wha-hoo! :-P

samus12345 ,
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Oh, bots that act offended and angry to keep them entertained (and away from the rest of us) would be awesome!

OpenStars ,
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Spez is probably working on it right now as we speak! :-P

samus12345 ,
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It would honestly be a brilliant way to keep the trolls engaged with the site!

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