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Boddhisatva , to Politics in Congressional Dems pile on Alito after he says SCOTUS ethics can’t be regulated

“No provision in the Constitution gives them the authority to regulate the Supreme Court—period,” Alito told the Journal.

This dumb shit really should read the Constitution.

Art III.S2.C2.6 Exceptions Clause and Congressional Control over Appellate Jurisdiction

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

Congress absolutely has, per the Constitution, clear authority to regulate the SCOTUS. How's this for an exception. The Supreme Court shall have no Jurisdiction in any case where any member of the court has a conflict of interest or even the appearance of a conflict of interest and refuses to recuse themselves?

Syldon , to Politics in Trump Mar-a-Lago security aide flipped after changing lawyers
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Doesn’t this leave the original lawyer open to some sort of complaint. If he told his client to perjure himself then surely this can have consequences.

PugJesus , to Politics in Trump Mar-a-Lago security aide flipped after changing lawyers
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Trump Attorney: "No, don't worry, you can beat this, just don't admit to anything."

Actual Attorney: "Jesus Christ, dude, you are so fucking hosed."

adespoton , to Politics in Trump Mar-a-Lago security aide flipped after changing lawyers

The interesting bit to me here is about Woodward. He appeared to be advising certain clients in a way that was both illegal and which put the client paying the bills at an advantage.

Worth another investigation, I’d say.

LillyPip , to Politics in Trump Mar-a-Lago security aide flipped after changing lawyers
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Hahahaha.

So the trump lawyer syndicate is advising clients to perjure themselves to help the boss, and sensible independent lawyers are saying fuck that, do you really want to go to jail for decades for that shyster who doesn’t care about you and won’t even pay your bills?

Lol worst crime family ever and everyone saw this coming. Where’s my tiny violin?

AFKBRBChocolate , to Politics in Trump Mar-a-Lago security aide flipped after changing lawyers

A Trump employee who monitored security cameras at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate abruptly retracted his earlier grand jury testimony and implicated Trump and others in obstruction of justice just after switching from an attorney paid for by a Trump political action committee to a lawyer from the federal defender’s office in Washington, prosecutors said in a court filing Tuesday.

The aide — described as “Trump Employee 4” in public court filings but identified elsewhere as Yuscil Taveras — held the title of director of information technology at Mar-a-Lago. He initially testified to a grand jury in Washington, D.C., that he was unaware of any effort to erase the videos, but after getting the new attorney “immediately … retracted his prior false testimony” and detailed the alleged effort to tamper with evidence related to the investigation of the handling of classified information stored at Trump’s Florida home, the new submission said.

I’m still not holding my breath until I see Trump facing actual consequences, but he sure does look to be screwed.

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  • Piecemakers3Dprints ,
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    the point of having a justice system is other than for it to be used on “lesser” folk.

    This has always been the case. See citations with fines = poor tax. Or, public defenders. Or, the SCoTUS having been saturated in corruption for decades now — if ever there were a moment it wasn’t, in fact. Or, any one of the myriad ways the justice system is anything but

    It doesn’t matter if he suddenly suicides by double-tap and a 17 story swan dive. This country’s a hair’s breadth from full-on, unfettered fascism, and then our oh-so precious Democracy™ will be well & truly fucked. We should all, worldwide, be thinking of what we do at that point, not crossing fingers Drumpf gets his just desserts. (Though that would certainly be refreshing, yes.)

    p03locke ,
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    Here’s the justice math:

    • Poor person wrongs a poor person = whatever, let the police figure it out and maybe they’ll randomly get justice, the rich don’t care
    • Poor person wrongs a rich person = they’re fucked and buried by the justice system
    • Rich person wrongs a poor person = slap on the wrist, and only because the poor person wasted a lot of money to get there
    • Rich person wrongs multiple rich people = Justice actually gets served because the rich pour all of their resources to get them there (see Bernie Madoff, Elizabeth Holmes, etc.)

    Hell, the rich will even put up with some other rich person’s bullshit, as long as they are useful in some other capacity. This is Trump, but Trump has outlived his usefulness, so he’s getting thrown to the wolves.

    P1r4nha ,

    running for president

    Looks to me more like running from the law

    UlyssesT , to Politics in Congressional Dems pile on Alito after he says SCOTUS ethics can’t be regulated

    pile on

    And do absolutely fucking nothing that actually changes that.

    pinkdrunkenelephants , to Politics in Congressional Dems pile on Alito after he says SCOTUS ethics can’t be regulated

    This is why we need to overthrow this broken system and put a new one into place.

    skellener , to Politics in Congressional Dems pile on Alito after he says SCOTUS ethics can’t be regulated
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    C O R R U P T

    reverendsteveii , to Politics in Congressional Dems pile on Alito after he says SCOTUS ethics can’t be regulated

    Call me when literally anything happens

    RickRussell_CA , to Politics in Congressional Dems pile on Alito after he says SCOTUS ethics can’t be regulated

    Well, here’s the problem. Alito is correct, that Congress can’t impose “ethics rules” on the court.

    The sole remedy given to the people is impeachment, and Bribery is explicitly listed as a valid basis for impeachment under Article 1.

    We would never get an impeachment through the Senate, of course.

    Rivalarrival ,

    There is a second remedy: constitutional amendment. Not sure exactly who should be watching the watchers if it’s not Congress. But we can assign someone to do so.

    Maybe a supermajority of district court judges should rule on issues involving SCOTUS justices.

    spider , to Politics in Congressional Dems pile on Alito after he says SCOTUS ethics can’t be regulated

    Anyone else notice how the two arguably worst Supreme Court justices were nominated by the so-called “moderate” Bush family?

    njm1314 ,

    Hey now, give those Trump appointees time. They’re still learning. I’m sure they’ll be unredeemable monsters soon.

    AngrilyEatingMuffins ,

    Gorsuch is really weird. He’s always gonna be theirs but he’s gonna side with us in really weird ways sometimes. I don’t think he’ll ever be Alito levels.

    Astroturfed ,

    Bush is only moderate now that we have fascists and terrorist as a segment of the party. I wish we could stop acting like Republicans were ever reasonable. At least in recent history.

    CaptObvious ,

    Only because those enthroned by McConnell and his stooge in the White House haven’t been there long enough to show a track record. Give it time.

    adroidBalloon , to Politics in Congressional Dems pile on Alito after he says SCOTUS ethics can’t be regulated
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    Alito: “Regulate us, I dare you!

    Congressional Dems: “Hold our beers…"

    judgeholden ,

    lol they won’t do anything

    NumbersCanBeFun ,
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    People said the same shit about the trump indictments right after all that shit happened with the election interference. Justice is a slow and methodical process and I’m tired of explaining it to dipshits like you who want to post a cool comment on some random social media site like you’re calling them out on something new. Can you please shut the fuck up and open a book next time? Thanks.

    sadreality ,

    A lot of bravado over here... Do you feel like you are playing on the team? Some strong emotional responses.

    keeb420 ,

    There's more the justice dept an do then what the currently gridlocked congress can do.

    RickRussell_CA ,

    Can you explain it to dipshits like me? As I read the Constitution, impeachment is the only remedy to remove a Federal judge, and success requires a supermajority of the Senate.

    Boddhisatva ,

    The Exceptions Clause states "In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make." (emphasis mine)

    Congress can regulate SCOTUS. In point of fact, Congress can define what cases the court has jurisdiction over with the exception of "Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party." In those cases, SCOTUS has final say per the Constitution, but in all other cases, Congress could assign final appellate authority to a lower court.

    norbert ,
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    Remember that time that rich and powerful member of the elite ruling class got held accountable for fucking anything?

    Me neither.

    Zorque ,

    Hey, they get held accountable sometimes... when they affect other rich and powerful members of the elite ruling class.

    FlashMobOfOne ,
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    More like this:

    Congressional Dems: “If we say really mean things about Alito, it’s cool that nothing changed, right?”

    hystericallymad ,

    Kavanaugh: “I like beer!”

    elementalguy2 ,

    And Squee.

    argv_minus_one ,

    Senate Republicans: loud evil laugh, mustache pinching, etc

    adroidBalloon ,
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    ahem, I believe it’s mustache-twirling…

    discusseded ,

    Lol…

    Mwua-hahahaha.

    Pinch pinch pinch, pinch pinch.

    UlyssesT ,

    Alito: “Regulate us, I dare you!”

    Congressional Dems: “Hold our beers…"

    Narrator voice: They did not actually regulate Alito. Ever. And they sip wine instead of beer.

    the-democrat 🍷 🍷 the-republican

    TrismegistusMx , to Politics in Congressional Dems pile on Alito after he says SCOTUS ethics can’t be regulated
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    As long as they’re just whining in response and not taking action they’re proving him right.

    spaceghoti OP ,

    TIL that House Democrats can launch investigations without control over House committees.

    TrismegistusMx ,
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    Wild how the Democrats always have an excuse but the government works flawlessly for Republicans.

    kitonthenet ,

    What’s your excuse for not investigating?

    TrismegistusMx ,
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    Oh, so you’re one of those Blue MAGA fascists who turn to narcissistic abusive tactics when your “team” is criticized.

    kitonthenet ,

    Cry harder lib

    TrismegistusMx ,
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    Just a MAGA fascist then.

    skulblaka ,
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    Brother I fix cars for a living. It's literally not my job to investigate and I couldn't if I wanted to. We have people for that. It's long past time to hold them accountable.

    kitonthenet ,

    Do so then

    sadreality , (edited )

    Political process is captured and broken, a wage slave has no sway over any of it

    But I am sure next election is different, it will be the one! As long as people vote for "my" team

    spaceghoti OP ,

    Anything works flawlessly when your goal is to not use it. The difference is that Democrats are interested in using the government to promote the common good and Republicans aren’t. But when they’re backed into a corner where no government action would get them crucified (like the COVID bills) Democrats won’t get in the way. Whereas whenever Democrats try the same thing Republicans obstruct and filibuster so they can blame Democrats for their inaction.

    TrismegistusMx ,
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    If we’re gauging by their actions and the results, their goal is to act as the apologist branch of our Republican government.

    spaceghoti OP ,

    Except they do and have accomplished things to help. The fact that they haven’t done more is proof that we’re never satisfied. It would be easier to do if Republicans hadn’t decided their path to power is to obstruct and blame everything on Democrats, but we no longer live in that world. Let’s acknowledge reality instead of helping Republicans blame Democrats for their hindrance.

    TrismegistusMx ,
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    I’ll believe that when the Democrats stop making excuses.

    spaceghoti OP ,

    How is describing the reality in front of you an excuse?

    TrismegistusMx ,
    @TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world avatar

    Because the government works in favor of Republicans and against Democrats every single time. Because Joe Biden, Joe Manchin, and KKK Leader Robert Byrd are/were pals. Because Biden rode the term “welfare queen” to the presidency. Because Kamala Harris is a cop and a DA. Because if it isn’t Manchin it’s Sinema. Because “The Squad” only swings their ladydicks when the stakes are low, and spend the rest of their time conveniently allowing the Republicans to operate with impunity. Because Marjorie Taylor Greene is still allowed in DC. Because because because becaaaause!!!

    spaceghoti OP ,

    And when they get the votes to bypass Republican obstruction, they deliver for the nation. Which is more than I can say for Republicans, who only serve the donor class.

    But please, continue to be smug in your enlightened centrism. You won’t hear from me again.

    TrismegistusMx ,
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    Twice in my life the popular vote was overridden by the electoral college to install a Republican, and look who’s crying about stolen elections, and look who’s dragging out the investigation.

    LetMeEatCake ,

    Republicans control the house and the senate is still subject to the filibuster and likely will remain that way until the next time there is 52+ dem senators + dem house + dem president simultaneously.

    brimnac ,

    Yeah, but think of how effective the empty gestures would be!

    /sarcasm

    queermunist ,
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    So? That still means he’s right!

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